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Silent Victory: U.S. Submarines in the Pacific, 1941-45» Forums » General

Subject: So many escorts? rss

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Tommy Hill
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Nearly finished my first patrol, and loving this game.
I don't know a great deal about the Pacific theatre, and was wondering if some body could answer a question I have.
In the game a single ship of small tonnage appears to have multiple escorts. I.E if you sink the ship and escort you still have to roll for detection by the remaining escorts.
Did small freighters really have this much protection in the pacific? Seems a bit odd for the IJN to invest so much effort in protecting a single ship.
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Mark Gingell
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From what I have read, sometimes there was an escort that joined up with sub chasers and other types of escort and would accompany a single freighter or brace of freighters to a particular location, where they would then escort a convoy of ships to another destination.
In one report there were six freighters being escorted by sixteen escorts. So it is likely that one freighter could be escorted by two or more escorts.

Read about SS-306 U.S.S. Tang, some interesting convoy freighter-escort mixes.
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The encounters in this game are intended to be not just the individual ships you target. It is assumed that you have found a larger convoy, and the ship/ships you target are just a subset of that larger convoy, hence the number of escorts. Once you have attacked the ships in the convoy that are closest to you, other escorts head over and join the attack.
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Thanks. Just read the wiki post on the Tang. Wow, the game is very accurate when matched to the historical events. I need to read more on this. I am thinking about reading Silent victory by Clay Blair. Any other suggestions?
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Silent Victory is great. I say that as someone who made it 1/4 to 1/3 of the way through before getting distracted. Will definitely return to it.

Edit to clarify that I am referring to the book Silent Victory by Clay Blair!
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Quote:
Will definitely return to it


That's one of the joys of both Silent Victory and The Hunters - you can play a few missions and come back weeks later and pick up where you left off. I have a Vassal game of The Hunters I started three weeks ago whilst on holiday that I can dip back into with practically no set up or "how did I get to here" preamble

Andrew
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One more question. Some of the targets have #number next to them. What does this signify? Can't see anything in rules.
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Jim Rose
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I believe you are referring to the amount of damage a target can take before being sunk. The different numbers depend on the tonnage of the target.
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Barry Miller
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wazdaka wrote:
One more question. Some of the targets have #number next to them. What does this signify? Can't see anything in rules.

That number is simply part of the ship's name. It was part of the Japanese naming convention, for the smaller merchant ships which were put to use for the war. It has nothing to do with the game, which is probably why those numbers aren't called out in the rules.

Why some ships have a number attached to their name while (most) others don't, I don't have a clue.


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bgm1961 wrote:

wazdaka wrote:
One more question. Some of the targets have #number next to them. What does this signify? Can't see anything in rules.

That number is simply part of the ship's name. It was part of the Japanese naming convention, for the smaller merchant ships which were put to use for the war. It has nothing to do with the game, which is probably why those numbers aren't called out in the rules.

Why some ships have a number attached to their name while (most) others don't, I don't have a clue.




Ah. I see. Thank you to all for the responses. War is going well. Although I just failed two special missions. Tried to drop a passenger off, but an air attack bust my fuel tanks, so had to abort. Then had a rescue mission. Went well with 7 airmen rescued. Met a battleship, sunk it. Took a beating from the escorts, who seriously wounded the passengers. Mission fail with a sunk battleship! Must have had the admirals son onboard. Boo hoo
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Gregory Smith
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Hey Tommy,
I have never heard of somebody failing TWO special missions, that's pretty hard to do.
So gratz I guess

In hindsight, you COULD have ignored the BB to get home with the airmen on board safe, BUT.....who is going to do that? hehehe.

Glad you're having fun,

Greg
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Roger Brandon
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Here are some great books on U.S. WW2 subs-

"Wake of the Wahoo" - Forest Stirling
https://www.amazon.com/Wake-Wahoo-Heroic-Americas-Submarine/...

Clear the Bridge! - Richard O'Kane
https://www.amazon.com/Clear-Bridge-Patrols-U-S-S-Tang/dp/08...

Thunder Below! - Eugene Fluckey
https://www.amazon.com/Thunder-Below-Revolutionizes-Submarin...


The War Below - James Scott
https://www.amazon.com/War-Below-Story-Submarines-Battled/dp...
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