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Subject: Vote example in rulebook rss

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Alex
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In the vote action F6 it says that you cannot use this Op on a vassal empire.
In the example below though, it uses the vote action to convert a vasal empire (papal States) into a republic.
So what is right and what is wrong?
 
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Phil Eklund
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tavlas wrote:
In the vote action F6 it says that you cannot use this Op on a vassal empire.
In the example below though, it uses the vote action to convert a vasal empire (papal States) into a republic.
So what is right and what is wrong?


The example in F6 is in error. The living rules replaces it with the following example:

Example: You have the French King (Louis XI the spider) with a vassal (The Papal States) containing three serfs. You have two concessions on the Italian borders, while your opponent has one. You have the Sindicat Remenca card, allowing a western vote. As part of a western tableau action, you use this card to vote, paying 3 florins to flip the Pope to its republic side and move it to your leftmost tableau position. The Papal States retain the three serfs. You gain a Papal concession. All three Papal borders are occupied, so if you wish to add a concession you must Repress your opponent’s concession to place your cube. This costs a florin and adds a serf to the Papal States.
 
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phileklund wrote:
tavlas wrote:
In the vote action F6 it says that you cannot use this Op on a vassal empire.
In the example below though, it uses the vote action to convert a vasal empire (papal States) into a republic.
So what is right and what is wrong?


The example in F6 is in error. The living rules replaces it with the following example:

Example: You have the French King (Louis XI the spider) with a vassal (The Papal States) containing three serfs. You have two concessions on the Italian borders, while your opponent has one. You have the Sindicat Remenca card, allowing a western vote. As part of a western tableau action, you use this card to vote, paying 3 florins to flip the Pope to its republic side and move it to your leftmost tableau position. The Papal States retain the three serfs. You gain a Papal concession. All three Papal borders are occupied, so if you wish to add a concession you must Repress your opponent’s concession to place your cube. This costs a florin and adds a serf to the Papal States.


This exaple is also in the actual rulebook, but again the papal States are a vasal empire
 
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Rich James
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Actually, in the living rules the restriction on voting in vassal states was removed.
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Phil Eklund
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Rich is right, I copy-pasted the wrong part. Sorry about that.
In the Living Rules, the rules for voting are:

F6. Vote (Political Op).

Use this Op to cause a Regime Change in an Empire (which awards you a Concession). The Empire can be in any Tableau, but must be in an east or west Tableau as specified on the icon. It cannot be in the empire stack.
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Ste M
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How to track this main changes like this one? I totally missed it an I also was confused
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as usual ;-) living rules ;-)
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Stefano1234 wrote:
How to track this main changes like this one? I totally missed it an I also was confused

I used Sharpie to cross out "(not Vasal)" from manual.
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