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I have heard dozens of people, over the years, pronounce this word incorrectly:

Anticlimactic

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Anticlimactic is defined as anything connected with turning out to be far less meaningful or exciting than was hoped.
An example of something anticlimactic is a toy a child finally gets after seeing it on TV, but in real life it doesn't do all the cool things it does on the commercial.


Just this morning, in a radio sports interview, the fellow said that the game was anticlimatic. As opposed to climatic?
What the hell are you talking about-- are you against the climate?

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Do you pronounce the 2nd "C" in the word anticlimactic?
Yes, of course
I honestly thought it was anticlimatic...
No, because anticlimatic is a valid pronunciation
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I voted "yes" as I do pronounce it, but I think it's probably along the same lines as those who don't pronounce the first "r" in February, or pronouncing "nuclear" as "noo-kyuh-lur".

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Frankly, I pronounce "climactic" as "climb-attic" as well, so at least I'm consistent.
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sigmazero13 wrote:
I voted "yes" as I do pronounce it, but I think it's probably along the same lines as those who don't pronounce the first "r" in February, or pronouncing "nuclear" as "noo-kyuh-lur".


Or the first T in statistics-- I've heard people call them satistics.

(Loved the Simpsons clip!)
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Victuals has a silent C. A silent U. And arguably a silent A. The word could just be Vitls.
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b a n j o wrote:
Victuals has a silent C. A silent U. And arguably a silent A. The word could just be Vitls.


Wait... that's pronounced the same as "vittles"? Like 'Tender Vittles'?

I know I've heard 'Morning Victuals' with every letter pronounced. Is this a regional thing?
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In my 60 years upon this earth, I have never heard anyone pronounce the second C in anticlimactic. Nor have I ever heard anyone use the word "climatic" to refer to the climate. In fact, there's a very good chance I've spelled the first word "anticlimatic". That spelling is clearly in error, but I question whether the pronunciation is.

I think it's very much like pronouncing "when" as "wen", rather than the technically correct "hwen". Or saying "Feb-yoo-ary" instead of "Feb-roo-ary", which everyone does. (On the other hand, saying "noo-kyuh-lar" instead of nuclear is just wrong, or at the very least, a regional thing, like saying "warsh" instead of "wash". And I've never heard anyone say "satistics"!)
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b a n j o wrote:
Victuals has a silent C. A silent U. And arguably a silent A. The word could just be Vitls.

What?!
 
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jmayDET wrote:
b a n j o wrote:
Victuals has a silent C. A silent U. And arguably a silent A. The word could just be Vitls.

What?!

Yeah, I think it's like when Elly Mae on The Beverly Hillbillies talked about "vittles", she was using a word that is properly spelled victuals. The base word is Latin, but I have no idea how the pronunciation got altered so much.
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b a n j o wrote:
Victuals has a silent C. A silent U. And arguably a silent A. The word could just be Vitls.


Isn't that like saying "Potato has a silent P, two silent O's and an invisible R?"

"Today's victuals are chitterlings, with a side of greens."
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These would be the same people who elide the first c in Antarctica, would they?

Pity them.
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"Do you pronounce the 2nd "C" in the word anticlimactic?"

Yes. However, I do not pronounce the first "C".
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Regional pronunciations can make for all sorts of interesting miscommunication. For instance, I had a buddy who was teaching college in Southern Ohio and he had a student from Kentucky who wrote something to the effect of:

That's when we realized we were too close to the far.

Of course, he was phonetically spelling the word "fire" the way he said it.

I also once spent a couple minutes trying to puzzle out what a student meant by wanting to have "sham pain." (He meant champagne.)
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How about the t in exactly? There's a podcast I listen to where one of the guys pronounces it explicitly. It's kind of hard to make your mouth do it.
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jmayDET wrote:
b a n j o wrote:
Victuals has a silent C. A silent U. And arguably a silent A. The word could just be Vitls.

What?!

Hs syng y dn't nd vwls.
 
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jbrecken wrote:
"Today's victuals are chitterlings, with a side of greens."


I think I saw the boatswain eating them on the forecastle.
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Doomsword wrote:
jmayDET wrote:
b a n j o wrote:
Victuals has a silent C. A silent U. And arguably a silent A. The word could just be Vitls.

What?!

Hs syng y dn't nd vwls.

Yeah that part I got. What blew my mind was that victuals is pronounced vittles and not vik-chew-ulls.
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From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Victual

Origin
Middle English: from Old French vitaille, from late Latin victualia, neuter plural of Latin victualis, from victus food; related to vivere to live. The pronunciation still represents the early spelling vittel; later spelling has been influenced by the Latin form.


Here is the link with the audio:

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/victual
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dreadpirate wrote:
b a n j o wrote:
Victuals has a silent C. A silent U. And arguably a silent A. The word could just be Vitls.


Wait... that's pronounced the same as "vittles"? Like 'Tender Vittles'?

I know I've heard 'Morning Victuals' with every letter pronounced. Is this a regional thing?


That IS "vittles" (properly "vittel"). An odd one. Late latin added a c to the original latin; English took it on, but then dropped it again.

So we are left with victual pronounced vittel. Oh the joys of languages that are old and promiscuous

-edit- and I should have read the rest of the thread

But I would like to stress that "anticlimatic", missing the c, is very, very wrong.
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Larry Levy wrote:
In my 60 years upon this earth, I have never heard anyone pronounce the second C in anticlimactic. Nor have I ever heard anyone use the word "climatic" to refer to the climate. In fact, there's a very good chance I've spelled the first word "anticlimatic". That spelling is clearly in error, but I question whether the pronunciation is.

I think it's very much like pronouncing "when" as "wen", rather than the technically correct "hwen". Or saying "Feb-yoo-ary" instead of "Feb-roo-ary", which everyone does. (On the other hand, saying "noo-kyuh-lar" instead of nuclear is just wrong, or at the very least, a regional thing, like saying "warsh" instead of "wash". And I've never heard anyone say "satistics"!)


I say feb-roo-ary.


To be fair, though, I used to have a speech issue when I was very young, and spent time in speech therapy, and I concentrate very hard on enunciation.
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I blame Dogbert.



Now I'm wondering just how many people never got the joke in that strip... Probably at least 4 if I go by the poll.
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Well, this thread is a bit of a let down.
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