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Subject: First game playing time for 2016 Vintage? rss

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-=::) Dante (::=-
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Would love to hear how long the 2016 Vintage playing time was for 4p including rules explanation for those playing Vinhos for the first time altogether.
 
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Chris Gordy
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For us, a four player game, it took just a bit over two hours. This was with no one having played either iteration of Vinhos before and with seasoned gamers.
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I'd say you're going to squarely be over 2 hours but definitely less than 3 hours, depending on how long the explanation is and how AP-prone players are.
 
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Joel Oakley
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...depending on how long the explanation is and how AP-prone players are.


The paralysis hit me in this game in a way that was really surprising. It was mainly near the end of the game when your options with the wine experts and Magnate action tiles have grown substantially. Normally, AP is not a problem for me, but my wife and I took around 2 hours for our first 2 player game.

I would plan on 3 hours for a first game with 4 players even if they are seasoned gamers.
 
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The missus and I had a similar experience to Joel on our first 2 player game. 2016 is streamlined, but there is still plenty of opportunity for AP later in the game.

Plus, it's worth noting that the official rules video is worth a watch to cut down on that first play time. The only glitch is the wording used to explain taking back barrels during maintenance. The video says to take back one, but you can take back "one or more" from the local establishments.
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Michal Sebik
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We played it in 3.. started at 18.30 and ended at 1:00. No one knew the rules, we went through them slowly. Also, there was a break for pizza but still the game was rather long I do not regret it - it is an excellent game!
 
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japester1 wrote:
The missus and I had a similar experience to Joel on our first 2 player game. 2016 is streamlined, but there is still plenty of opportunity for AP later in the game.

Plus, it's worth noting that the official rules video is worth a watch to cut down on that first play time. The only glitch is the wording used to explain taking back barrels during maintenance. The video says to take back one, but you can take back "one or more" from the local establishments.


Wait, really? So Paul made a mistake in his video? surprise
Wow that would make things quite different for sure (at least for my first game of Vinhos)
Thanks for bringing it up!
 
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Baimi wrote:
japester1 wrote:
The missus and I had a similar experience to Joel on our first 2 player game. 2016 is streamlined, but there is still plenty of opportunity for AP later in the game.

Plus, it's worth noting that the official rules video is worth a watch to cut down on that first play time. The only glitch is the wording used to explain taking back barrels during maintenance. The video says to take back one, but you can take back "one or more" from the local establishments.


Wait, really? So Paul made a mistake in his video? surprise
Wow that would make things quite different for sure (at least for my first game of Vinhos)
Thanks for bringing it up!


It's not just a mistake in the video. He's just following the printed mistake on page 13 of the rules and the player aids! zombie

As an additional data point regarding first plays, two different games this week one at home with four and one at a convention both took just over 4 hours including set up, rules, and playing time with 4p.
 
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Vital Lacerda
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NuMystic wrote:

Wait, really? So Paul made a mistake in his video? surprise
Wow that would make things quite different for sure (at least for my first game of Vinhos)
Thanks for bringing it up!


No he didn't, I did. Please take a look at this article.
Paul never makes mistakes in his videos.

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