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Back in January, researchers at Caltech discovered evidence of a possible ninth planet, roughly ten times more massive than Earth and out way beyond Pluto.

Planet Nine in Outerspace


Now they are hypothesizing that its existence is the cause of the Sun's rotation being tilted by six degrees relative to the plane of the other planets.

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Curious_tilt_of_the_Sun_tr...
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Last week Dan Dixon was giving me a tour of http://universesandbox.com/ in VR. One of the many rad simulations to play with was the 9th planet. It was super cool.

He said, if the 9th planet exists, astronomers expect to find it within the next 5 years.
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Wait a minute. There were 9 planets most of my life. Then they cut it down to 8. Now it's 9 again? Shenanigans, I say!
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I thought we were up to 11 or so?
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galad2003 wrote:
I thought we were up to 11 or so?


I think there would have been if they hadn't drafted the definitions to exclude Pluto.
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toku42 wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
I thought we were up to 11 or so?


I think there would have been if they hadn't drafted the definitions to exclude Pluto.


Turns out I was thinking of dwarf planets. I was thinking of Eris and some others they discovered.
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10x more massive than Earth.. would it have that much of an influence on the sun at such a (small) size and such a huge distance away? If that's so it would also have to have extreme influences on the other 8 planets.. is that observable as well? (random thoughts).
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Erik17 wrote:
Back in January, researchers at Caltech discovered evidence of a possible ninth planet, roughly ten times more massive than Earth and out way beyond Pluto.

Planet Nine in Outerspace


Now they are hypothesizing that its existence is the cause of the Sun's rotation being tilted by six degrees relative to the plane of the other planets.

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Curious_tilt_of_the_Sun_tr...


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10x more massive than Earth.. would it have that much of an influence on the sun at such a (small) size and such a huge distance away? If that's so it would also have to have extreme influences on the other 8 planets.. is that observable as well? (random thoughts).


My thoughts exactly -- 6% is a huge shift for a planet as small as Neptune that far out. Weirdly, when I googled this event, I found this article, on Science that talks about the strangely tilted orbit but says nothing about the sun...

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/01/feature-astronomers-s...

But perhaps with the extra brainpower being directed in that direction, these alternate studies are emerging.
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joe_salamone wrote:
Wait a minute. There were 9 planets most of my life. Then they cut it down to 8. Now it's 9 again? Shenanigans, I say!


I wanted to thumb your post, but you had exactly 9 thumbs. I couldn't do that to you.
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joe_salamone wrote:
Wait a minute. There were 9 planets most of my life. Then they cut it down to 8. Now it's 9 again? Shenanigans, I say!
Damn Cybermen.
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The Plutonians are just extracting their revenge for being kicked out of the club.
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Asperamanca wrote:
joe_salamone wrote:
Wait a minute. There were 9 planets most of my life. Then they cut it down to 8. Now it's 9 again? Shenanigans, I say!

I wanted to thumb your post, but you had exactly 9 thumbs. I couldn't do that to you.
Now it's at eleven. A couple dwarf thumbs snuck in there I guess.
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79strat wrote:
10x more massive than Earth.. would it have that much of an influence on the sun at such a (small) size and such a huge distance away? If that's so it would also have to have extreme influences on the other 8 planets.. is that observable as well? (random thoughts).

Is it possible that this ninth planet affects the tilt of all other planets/bodies, except the sun, which is too far away/huge to be affected?
If so, could it merely be that the sun is actually on a "correct" tilt, but six degrees out from our perspective?
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TomTi89 wrote:
79strat wrote:
10x more massive than Earth.. would it have that much of an influence on the sun at such a (small) size and such a huge distance away? If that's so it would also have to have extreme influences on the other 8 planets.. is that observable as well? (random thoughts).

Is it possible that this ninth planet affects the tilt of all other planets/bodies, except the sun, which is too far away/huge to be affected?
If so, could it merely be that the sun is actually on a "correct" tilt, but six degrees out from our perspective?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt

Based on the chart under solar system bodies it seems that it's more "correct" for planetary bodies to BE tilted than NOT be tilted. From what I know most tilts are caused by -huge- impacts, of which I'm sure the sun has had it's fair share in its early days. I just think "those" would have affected its tilt more than a 9th planet that is 200AU away... but maybe it's gravitational pull at perihelion which did influence the sun that much... but whose to say stars are "born" with a "correctly" tilted axis anyways...?
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Gee Whiz wrote:
Last week Dan Dixon was giving me a tour of http://universesandbox.com/ in VR. One of the many rad simulations to play with was the 9th planet. It was super cool.

He said, if the 9th planet exists, astronomers expect to find it within the next 5 years.

To the late Zecharia Sitchin, this would have struck him as old news. And although he first wrote about what would later become better known as the Nemesis Planet Theory in his 1976 seminal work "The 12th Planet", Sitchin got the inspiration for his theory from his inferential interpretation of ancient Sumerian writings about the Annunaki, the advanced beings to whom the ancient Sumerians attributed as the bringers of civilization to humankind.





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