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Subject: Rahdo dislike war/action board games? rss

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I remember seeing roll for the galaxy I believe in one of his top 10 lists, but that is the only "combat" game I could find.

I just got done watching all 47 top 10 lists on his channel, and a lot of them are worker placement I believe. Once again, this is not an attack on him, I am just curious. I was hoping to get some good recommendations for boardgames from him, since he is well respected. Out of 47 of those lists, I only got 2 that were already on my review list; most of the rest I never heard heard of on bgg or other review sites.

How come plenty of other popular game reviewers have classic popular games like small world, wits and wagers, memoir 44, ticket to ride, legendary/dominion, 1776, etc., and he has none of those?

I know he stated that he doesnt like stealing/harming his opponent in certain games; but what about a good chunk of the market where action is the centerpiece?

My wife and I like playing some non action games like Concordia, love dexterity games like spot it and top that, and also love mostly action themed board games like dc deckbuilder, 1776, memoir 44, game of thrones, etc.. He seems like the polar opposite of most other game reviewers.
 
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Last time I watched his videos he disliked "offensive interaction" and "nasty themes" and his wife does even more.

So if you are interested in this kind of game, look for recommendations elsewhere.

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This may help.
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Rahdo dislikes meaningful interaction between players, which is to say prefers multiplayer solitaire games. He has a large following as he is not the polar opposite of many (on this site).

Him and I could not be further apart on the spectrum (I probably wargame more than anything), so he is not a terribly good resource for me, except a shining review typically means avoid. In bizarro world we both greatly enjoy Agricola, but play it very different ways (denial strategies and starving your opponent are a good part of the game when I'm at the table .

Maybe he doesn't have your list of 'classics' as he doesn't enjoy them (those are all pretty recent)? A reviewer need not ride the boat so to speak. Ticket to ride is something I've hated since it's inception.
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Last time I watched his videos he disliked "offensive interaction" and "nasty themes" and his wife even more.

So if you are interested in this kind of game, look for recommendations elsewhere.

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You may want to edit this slightly because it reads that he dislikes his wife more than offensive interaction or nasty themes which I am sure isn't the intention.
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Yeah, Rahdo fills a specific niche and does so well.

His tastes are so different to mine I don't find him useful as a game reviewer at all. It sounds like you may be in the same situation.

There's lots of reviewers out there. (I like Calendale, but he may be too far in the other direction for you).
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Yea, DT (obviously) and sit up/shut up are my 2 go to ones. The rest may be interesting to others, but they are more "blah" to me. You have to entertain your viewers too when reviewing and both of these do it the best, that latter even more so.

I like some of the others for tutorials, for certain games, but the other two off so much more.
 
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Jorath wrote:
You may want to edit this slightly because it reads that he dislikes his wife more than offensive interaction or nasty themes which I am sure isn't the intention.


Indeed ... But he couldn't dislike his wife: it would be a too mean interaction for him.

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Yea, DT (obviously)

They are popular but they are in no way mandatory.
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He's a Eurogamer. I have very similar tastes to him, which means that I have very few conflict games if any. I love multiplayer solitaire just like Rahdo, which makes him my go-to reviewer. Especially since we both do mainly 2 player gaming. Like others have said, watch reviews of games you know and like and see what reviewers agree with you. Games are liked and disliked so you need to find someone that's close to your style. Rahdo is the closest to me, although there are plenty of games that we disagree on.


Edit- Also, randomness is something in games that many Eurogamers don't like. And war games seem to be pretty heavy in randomness
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Iirc, rahdo also specifically dislikes pick up and deliver games and games where you roll dice to determine the success or failure of an action, (descent, mice and mystics) so these types of games would not make it to his top 10 lists and only get videotaped if a backer of his kickstarter requests it.

 
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Rahdo prefers to build things than to knock them down. That has been handy for me as my wife does not like games where you attack each other. What is to be gained if Rahdo reviews games he is predisposed to hate? Is that how he wants to spend his time? That would be like asking Zee at Dice Tower to cover the 18xx range.

And other folks cover the combat stuff. Marcowargamer is my fave in that department, and I like DriveThru Review for a broad coverage of games.

For me if you have a broad-ish taste then it's good to have multiple sources for reviews.

e.g. some card games, I like to check out Boardgame Brawl.

Would love to see Rahdo review Dominion. If memory serves, he likes it, and the shiny new second editions are out.

Heck I might pay money to see Rahdo and Jen play Memoir '44 or even better, King of Tokyo.



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givemeInfoplease wrote:
roll for the galaxy... "combat" game


Wait, what?
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I think Rhados strenght is that he present how the game plays and flows very well. It really helps to know if I would like the game or not.

What he dislike/like is not that interesting to be honest, no offence to him I watch maybe 25-50% of the final thoughts after I watch a runthrough.
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Whoa that Rahdo game collection is humongous. Most people never even heard about so many games he has played.
 
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Rahdo dislikes meaningful interaction between players, which is to say prefers multiplayer solitaire games. He has a large following as he is not the polar opposite of many (on this site).

Him and I could not be further apart on the spectrum (I probably wargame more than anything), so he is not a terribly good resource for me, except a shining review typically means avoid. In bizarro world we both greatly enjoy Agricola, but play it very different ways (denial strategies and starving your opponent are a good part of the game when I'm at the table .

Maybe he doesn't have your list of 'classics' as he doesn't enjoy them (those are all pretty recent)? A reviewer need not ride the boat so to speak. Ticket to ride is something I've hated since it's inception.

Theoretically Kyle and I agree on a lot but not on Rahdo. Yeah, he's a carebear (as he says himself) but he's upfront about it and I'm fine with that approach. Radho plays 2-player and so his reviews focus on that aspect of games, which is quite helpful for me because a lot of my gaming is with my wife. She's also somewhat conflict averse so his focus on a game's level of conflict is again useful. (My wife is less conflict averse than Rahdo so often if I hear him say a game has a bit too much meanness for him, I'll decide it's probably not too much for her.)

When I want war game reviews I look elsewhere, like to Marco Arnaudo.
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And yeah, Kyle is right, Ticket to Ride is a tool of Satan.
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givemeInfoplease wrote:
roll for the galaxy... "combat" game


Wait, what?

I wondered about that too. Is it the violent clattering of the dice?
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zjensen3 wrote:
He's a Eurogamer.

Being a eurogamer doesn't mean that one only likes multiplayer solitaire, or that one dislikes conflict and harming one's opponents in games. Conflict and hindering opponents is perfectly possible in most eurogames.

(E.g. bidding a plant you don't want just to raise the price for someone who definitely needs it, buying extra resources to raise the price, blocking builds in Power Grid; various tile and meeple placements to hurt opponents in Carcassonne; blocking people in Ticket To Ride or Kingdom Builder; etc).

It's just that some eurogamers choose to not do anything like that, for whatever reason.

But many other eurogamers certainly use such "non-carebear" techniques when playing eurogames.
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givemeInfoplease wrote:
Yea, DT (obviously) and sit up/shut up are my 2 go to ones. The rest may be interesting to others, but they are more "blah" to me. You have to entertain your viewers too when reviewing and both of these do it the best, that latter even more so.

I like some of the others for tutorials, for certain games, but the other two off so much more.


Check out Inside the Box. Hilarous, and they cover conflict games. Great production values, too.
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Rahdo has repeatedly mentioned how him and his wife are Carebears in terms of conflict. It is one of the reasons I tend to ignore his reviews.
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russ wrote:
Being a eurogamer doesn't mean that one only likes multiplayer solitaire, or that one dislikes conflict and harming one's opponents in games. Conflict and hindering opponents is perfectly possible in most eurogames.


Not all eurogamers are conflict averse but the vast majority of conflict averse players are eurogamers. (Well, and party gamers).
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I like him for the fact that his reviews are very thorough. I've got a pretty eclectic taste in games.
 
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Rahdo is a great resource. It feels like there aren't as many reviewers reviewing euro games, epecially the heavier ones, at least in the video format. Rahdo covers most of them (although it really feels like he's reviewing KS stuff more lately.)

But, yes, Rahdo is a carebear and he freely admits it. There is no issue there. We all like different things and the more conflict heavy style games seem well covered elsewhere.

If you want someone who reviews eurogames but can relish in the conflict some of them can provide I say check out Joel Eddy at Drive Through Reviews. He matches my tastes the best. His favorite game is Caylus, which Rahdo passed off as being too mean, which to be honest, still somewhat boggles my mind.
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russ wrote:
zjensen3 wrote:
He's a Eurogamer.

Being a eurogamer doesn't mean that one only likes multiplayer solitaire, or that one dislikes conflict and harming one's opponents in games. Conflict and hindering opponents is perfectly possible in most eurogames.



I didn't say he didn't like hindering his opponents or trying his best to win. One of his favorite games is Castles of Burgundy and that game is full of taking things that you want but also what your opponent might want. That's not conflict in my eyes.


Every game has to have some level of affecting the other players. Worker placement games, which many are full blown eurogames, are all about blocking your opponent. I love viticulture, but I would never want to play cry havoc with my wife and try to kill her. Both affect other players but only one has conflict in my eyes.
 
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zjensen3 wrote:
russ wrote:
zjensen3 wrote:
He's a Eurogamer.

Being a eurogamer doesn't mean that one only likes multiplayer solitaire, or that one dislikes conflict and harming one's opponents in games. Conflict and hindering opponents is perfectly possible in most eurogames.



I didn't say he didn't like hindering his opponents or trying his best to win. One of his favorite games is Castles of Burgundy and that game is full of taking things that you want but also what your opponent might want. That's not conflict in my eyes.

Whether it's conflict or negative interaction or hindrance or harming or whatever, the distinctions don't really matter here: the point is that he does not like very much of That Kind Of Thing (he calls himself a care-bear, after all), and I understood you to be saying that his being a care-bear was explained by the mere fact that he is a eurogamer.

(Like if someone is wondering why someone can speak German, and someone answers "He is from Germany".)

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Every game has to have some level of affecting the other players. Worker placement games, which many are full blown eurogames, are all about blocking your opponent. I love viticulture, but I would never want to play cry havoc with my wife and try to kill her. Both affect other players but only one has conflict in my eyes.


And many eurogamers are happy to cry havoc and destroy their opponents. I.e. he's not a care-bear merely because he likes euros; otherwise all euro players would be care-bears.
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