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Rasmus Helms
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I want to revisit my board game ratings. For about a year and a half I've been using BGG's suggested rating system, ranking games based on eagerness to play a given game.

10 - Outstanding. Always want to play, expect this will never change.
9 - Excellent. Always want to play.
8 - Very good. Like to play, will probably suggest it, will never turn it down.
7 - Good. Usually willing to play.
6 - Fair. Some fun or challenge at least, will play occasionally if in the right mood.
5 - Average. No significant appeal, take it or leave it.
4 - Below average. Slightly boring, could be talked into it on occasion.
3 - Poor. Likely won't play this again although could be convinced.
2 - Very poor. Annoying, I plan to never play this again.
1 - Defies description of a game. You won't catch me dead playing this. Clearly broken.

I have however found the list to be rather flawed - there is no game I always want to play. Mage Knight is one of my favourite games, but not one I want to pull out very often due to the time required for setup and play.

What kind of lists or requirements do you have for your ratings of board games?
I'd love for some inspiration how to improve my own rating. I'd especially appreciate a scale that actually uses all the numbers as rating 3, 4, and 5 according to the BGG Ratings are almost identical.


Quick note - this is not about the BGG ratings or whether or not they should change their suggestions. I simply desire to improve my own ratings to more accurately reflect my thoughts on the games I play :-)
 
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David Buckley
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I'd use 1-10 to indicate how enthusiastically I would recommend a given game to myself.
 
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Joe Huber

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While I still use the 10 point scale, I'm really more inclined towards a 5 point scale:

Favorite
Own
Play
No
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RHelms wrote:
I have however found the list to be rather flawed


That's OK. Everyone uses their own metric, with this being the baseline used by many.

Can't change it decades in.
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RHelms wrote:

I have however found the list to be rather flawed - there is no game I always want to play. Mage Knight is one of my favourite games, but not one I want to pull out very often due to the time required for setup and play.

well it kind of sounds like you do want to play it, it's just not feasible to do so.

for me I try to be more loose with the middle numbers. 3s and 4s end up being something like "sure I'll play it but it'll be basically a background thing" maybe requiring drinking or some such
 
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Buckersuk wrote:
I'd use 1-10 to indicate how enthusiastically I would recommend a given game to myself.

Same. With a somewhat forced distribution to avoid clumping at 7-8. I've played lots of games, and most I play expecting to be good. I.e. I don't games I expect I won't like, just to say I've played them. And guess what? Most of the games I've played are "average" compared to everything else I've played, which means 5-6.
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Greg Strobel
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I use this scale

10 - Add to my collection immediately
9 - I might buy this
8 - Add to my collection if on sale
7 - Would add to my collection via trade
6 - might ask for as a gift
5 - Would play again
4 - would play again if everyone else wants to
3 - Would play again if in the right mood
2 - Would play again if only option
1 - I will never play again
 
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10 - Better than 9
9 - Better than 8
8 - Better than 7
7 - Better than 6
6 - Better than 5
5 - Better than 4
4 - Better than 3
3 - Better than 2
2 - Better than 1
1 - Worse than 2.

Pete (hopes that's not overly complicated)
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plezercruz wrote:
10 - Better than 9
9 - Better than 8
8 - Better than 7
7 - Better than 6
6 - Better than 5
5 - Better than 4
4 - Better than 3
3 - Better than 2
2 - Better than 1
1 - Worse than 2.

Pete (hopes that's not overly complicated)


This is good stuff because not only is it snarky and funny, it is actually spot on true.

This is exactly how the ratings work, no matter what your criteria.
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Curt Carpenter
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fifteenkeys wrote:
This is exactly how the ratings work, no matter what your criteria.

Well, no. The BGG rating definitions roughly map to desire to play. Above someone else mentioned a correlation with desire to own. I could (and sometimes do) also factor in how good I think the design is. There are many games that I would rate much higher than purely based on how often I want to play it. There are multiple ways of rating. Never mind how one chooses to force a distribution, or not.
 
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RHelms wrote:
I have however found the list to be rather flawed - there is no game I always want to play.

Sounds like you may be taking the definitions too literally. I see a flippant tone in some of them, telling me they may have been tossed off pretty quickly to fill a void. You can be just as flexible in applying them as you wish.

 
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Here is a thread from deep history in which a key site administrator suggested replacing the existing list with more careful definitions.

Alternate rating guidelines

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TVis wrote:
Here is a thread from deep history in which a key site administrator suggested replacing the existing list with more careful definitions.

Alternate rating guidelines



Here they are:

Here is the proposed new scale (or at least one version of it--it went through a lot of drafts--apologies to all involved if I missed something that should have been included):
10: Outstanding game. One of my all-time personal favorites.
9: Excellent game. Always a pleasure to play. Shines under most circumstances.
8: Very good game. Rarely disappoints me. High on my request/recommend list.
7: Good game. Usually willing to play. I might even request or recommend it.
6: OK game. Some fun or challenge at least. Enjoyable in the right circumstances.
5: Average game. I'm indifferent, but may be willing to play.
4: Below average game. I avoid playing and would need to be persuaded.
3: Poor game. Will strongly resist playing.
2: Very poor game. I refuse to play this.
1: Dead game. Seriously negative entertainment value. Black Hole of Fun.
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I think just rating a game on a scale of 1-10 is enough without get too specific , games you think are great get high marks others get lower. This is enough information for others to make use of your ratings e.g. they like game x a lot but also game y which I hadn't considered. If you want to be more specific then use the comments. The ratings only become pointless if you decide on your own personal scale for example a 1 is the best because then they are no use for other people and no use for yourself because you already know how feel about a game.

I have edited this just to add something I would like to see, the ability to rank a game in each category for example give an 8 for theme and a 7 for strategy.
 
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TVis wrote:
Here is a thread from deep history in which a key site administrator suggested replacing the existing list with more careful definitions.

Alternate rating guidelines



Thanks a bunch! These are just the sorts of ratings I was looking for! :-)
 
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huber wrote:
While I still use the 10 point scale, I'm really more inclined towards a 5 point scale:

Favorite
Own
Play
No
Flammable


Haha this resembles mine, although somewhat more creatively worded. My spreadsheet is rated Superb, Good, Ok, Fair, and Poor. I could go down to Terrible but haven't seen a game that bad yet.
 
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huber wrote:
While I still use the 10 point scale, I'm really more inclined towards a 5 point scale:

Favorite
Own
Play
No
Flammable


I'd add another one: Burning now. whistle
 
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