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Subject: Montefeltro influence discount rss

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dyvim tanelorn
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The Montefeltro influence discount is only for tiles auction or, as i think, also for condottiere auctions?
 
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Roland Goslar
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I think, it is for any auction you pay with influence: Tiles, condottiere and pope.

And yes, it is a very strong family.
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Bill Hollebeke
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only "when paying for an artist"
so only for tiles

at least it was like that in the original version
 
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Billtje wrote:
only "when paying for an artist"
so only for tiles

at least it was like that in the original version

In this new edition they changed some details:

 
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Kevin Nesbitt
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The discount applies to all auctions.

Depending on your level of experience with the game, you can also flip over the Family Tiles and play the alternate side. This has the effect of halving the Family Tile powers, making the initial auction for those tiles a little less important. This results in a very different experience, both in the initial auction and the subsequent game.
 
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Montefeltro is very, very strong in Mercury edition! D'Este seems weak by comparison with the others.
 
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Mantuanwar wrote:
Montefeltro is very, very strong in Mercury edition! D'Este seems weak by comparison with the others.


Yes, probably the strongest of the tiles for most playing styles.

However, with the choice of Family Tiles now assigned by auction, anyone who wants Montefeltro, but doesn't win him at auction, starts with more Gold and/or only has themselves to blame for not winning their Family Tile of choice.

Of course, there is a tipping point - pay too much for the Family Tile you consider strongest and you'll start the game far behind. We've seen plenty of games where the player with a "weaker" Family Tile wins because they bid very little for that tile and were able to secure their first choice of City Tiles as a result.
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The variation in the value of the different starting families is now much greater than in 1st edition. But new players can't judge those sorts of things, so the start auction for place/family pick for newbs is very problematic. I think it would be better if the rules said that new players should start with the reduced value side (which reduces the effect of your start family and reduces the imbalance between the different ones).

Love the look of the new edition and the new tiles (but less enamoured of some start families now being able to use Influence discounts in all auction types).
 
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