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Trump turning away intelligence briefers since election win
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President-elect Donald Trump has received two classified intelligence briefings since his surprise election victory earlier this month, a frequency that is notably lower — at least so far — than that of his predecessors, current and former U.S. officials said.

A team of intelligence analysts has been prepared to deliver daily briefings on global developments and security threats to Trump in the two weeks since he won. Vice President-elect Mike Pence, by contrast, has set aside time for intelligence briefings almost every day since the election, officials said.
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So, yet another way he's just like Obama.

Why don't you love him? cry

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Drew1365 wrote:
So, yet another way he's just like Obama.

Why don't you love him? cry



Just like Reagan, you mean. Who skipped 99% of the oral presidential daily briefings.
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Fits my theory that he was never really that interested in doing the job of the president. As long as Pence lets him run his grafts, T will be happy.
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It's akin of some 'host' refusing their "brain transplant" while at least HE is then zombie-'averse', so, there's THAT!
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Drew1365 wrote:
So, yet another way he's just like Obama.

Why don't you love him? cry


From the linked article:
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After his election in 2008, President Obama took part not only in regular intelligence briefings but also scheduled “deep dives” on key subjects including Iran’s nuclear program and covert CIA operations, including the accelerating campaign of drone strikes in Pakistan.

“During the transition, President Obama was an avid consumer of intelligence,” said retired Lt. Gen. Michael V. Hayden, who was CIA director when Obama was elected.

Do you have any sources suggesting otherwise?
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odie73 wrote:

Do you have any sources suggesting otherwise?


Real sources or 'legit' sources?

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Drew1365 wrote:
So, yet another way he's just like Obama.

Why don't you love him? cry

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Drew1365 wrote:
So, yet another way he's just like Obama.

Why don't you love him? cry

Yeah, the 'Negative/Obverse'-Obama so, you're welcome Colin K.? thx!
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This makes sense as only a few weeks ago President Elect Trump was reportedly surprised by the fact he has to hire 4,000 staffers for the white house by January 20th.

He's probably ass deep now. He's going to have to delegate like crazy and the Bush's don't seem prone to help him out of his mess.
 
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This makes sense as only a few weeks ago President Elect Trump was reportedly surprised by the fact he has to hire 4,000 staffers for the white house by January 20th.


It seems very odd to me: are all the staff politicized ?
Can they be kept from a president to an other ?
Are there really 4 000 councillors/chief of something/..., in the White House ?
 
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maxo-texas wrote:
This makes sense as only a few weeks ago President Elect Trump was reportedly surprised by the fact he has to hire 4,000 staffers for the white house by January 20th.


It seems very odd to me: are all the staff politicized ?
Can they be kept from a president to an other ?
Are there really 4 000 councillors/chief of something/..., in the White House ?


Yep, for sure. It adds up. This number includes National Security Council staff, Council of Economic Advisers, White House Staff, Office of Management and Budget, the Office of the US Trade Representative, and a bunch more.

This doesn't include security, cooks, butlers, and the like - those folks generally stay on.
 
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wifwendell wrote:
Xahendir wrote:
maxo-texas wrote:
This makes sense as only a few weeks ago President Elect Trump was reportedly surprised by the fact he has to hire 4,000 staffers for the white house by January 20th.


It seems very odd to me: are all the staff politicized ?
Can they be kept from a president to an other ?
Are there really 4 000 councillors/chief of something/..., in the White House ?


Yep, for sure. It adds up. This number includes National Security Council staff, Council of Economic Advisers, White House Staff, Office of Management and Budget, the Office of the US Trade Representative, and a bunch more.

This doesn't include security, cooks, butlers, and the like - those folks generally stay on.


Ok, "staffers for the white house" was misleading for me.
 
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Wow me with your outrage of Obama skipping tons of these briefings. Don't worry, I'll wait.
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What, exactly, do you suppose needs his immediate attention? Can't Obama be trusted for another couple months?

Another point. A classified briefing can't be conducted just anywhere. I know you are all experts on classified information and have deemed Clinton innocent, but it would probably be a major hassle to get such a briefing in the midst of everything else he's doing. It ain't like he's living in a SCIF as he will be in a couple months.

What will they tell him today that Obama will seek his counsel on if he was consulted?

Obama is going to do what he is going to do.
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odie73 wrote:
Drew1365 wrote:
So, yet another way he's just like Obama.

Why don't you love him? :cry:


From the linked article:
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After his election in 2008, President Obama took part not only in regular intelligence briefings but also scheduled “deep dives” on key subjects including Iran’s nuclear program and covert CIA operations, including the accelerating campaign of drone strikes in Pakistan.

“During the transition, President Obama was an avid consumer of intelligence,” said retired Lt. Gen. Michael V. Hayden, who was CIA director when Obama was elected.

Do you have any sources suggesting otherwise?


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Wow me with your outrage of Obama skipping tons of these briefings. Don't worry, I'll wait.



~~Dashi, I presume the question still stands.
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Is it too early to start labeling certain RSPers as "Trump-lickers"?

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What, exactly, do you suppose needs his immediate attention? Can't Obama be trusted for another couple months?

Another point. A classified briefing can't be conducted just anywhere. I know you are all experts on classified information and have deemed Clinton innocent, but it would probably be a major hassle to get such a briefing in the midst of everything else he's doing. It ain't like he's living in a SCIF as he will be in a couple months.

What will they tell him today that Obama will seek his counsel on if he was consulted?

Obama is going to do what he is going to do.

Obama won't seek his counsel but Trump should not expect that he can just call him up in two months when there is an issue he has no clue about.

Getting up to speed on national security and international threats to the US with close to zero previous experience in those fields is hardly done overnight. Not to mention that this knowledge should also point him to the kind of expertise he should be looking for in at least some of his staffers.
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Koldfoot wrote:
What, exactly, do you suppose needs his immediate attention? Can't Obama be trusted for another couple months?

Another point. A classified briefing can't be conducted just anywhere. I know you are all experts on classified information and have deemed Clinton innocent, but it would probably be a major hassle to get such a briefing in the midst of everything else he's doing. It ain't like he's living in a SCIF as he will be in a couple months.

What will they tell him today that Obama will seek his counsel on if he was consulted?

Obama is going to do what he is going to do.
Shouldn't the incoming president be, you know, prepared for the job?

Also, from the WaPo articled linked in my OP, it seems that Pence is able to make time.
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Vice President-elect Mike Pence, by contrast, has set aside time for intelligence briefings almost every day since the election, officials said.
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odie73 wrote:
Obama won't seek his counsel but Trump should not expect that he can just call him up in two months when there is an issue he has no clue about.


Not sure why he'd call Obama, then.
 
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Koldfoot wrote:
What, exactly, do you suppose needs his immediate attention? Can't Obama be trusted for another couple months?

Another point. A classified briefing can't be conducted just anywhere. I know you are all experts on classified information and have deemed Clinton innocent, but it would probably be a major hassle to get such a briefing in the midst of everything else he's doing. It ain't like he's living in a SCIF as he will be in a couple months.

What will they tell him today that Obama will seek his counsel on if he was consulted?

Obama is going to do what he is going to do.


I mean, yeah, Obama is still the president for another month and change and I'm sure that'll be fine.

Trump is pretty much the least experienced president coming into office when we're talking about international policy. I think that's a given, and his "outsider" status was a big part of his appeal. That said, he's about to step into what is, I think we all agree, a pretty big job. He's gotta get up to speed. I don't think any previous president-elect has ever not done it so why, exactly, should he skip 'em?
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Is it too early to start labeling certain RSPers as "Trump-lickers"?

They 'aspire' from being JUST & ONLY plain "rump-lickers"! C they 'got' a 'microbadge' yet googoo "Avocado Goggles" sold separately.
 
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Koldfoot wrote:
What, exactly, do you suppose needs his immediate attention?…
Learning what he needs to know to make informed choices in order to do the bloody job he was elected to do.
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Is it too early to start labeling certain RSPers as "Trump-lickers"?


I think it goes well beyond licking.
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You mean refusing American intelligence briefings?

He has another friend who gives him all the briefings he needs.

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