UA Darth
United States
Garwood
New Jersey
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I remember reading here about how the game originally had you round down when taking back money while the newer version, through mistakes, has you rounding up. Does anyone find much of a difference either way? Which way is preferred, if any?
Thanks!
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Evan S
United States
Minneapolis
Minnesota
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I started playing rounding down what you get back (e.g., get back 1 on a bid of 3) but then ran across people that insisted you round up.
After playing both ways, I now generally round up what you get back to keep more money in players hands to make the auctions a bit more lively.
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Paul Sauberer
United States
Hendersonville
Tennessee
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The original version (by Ravensburger/Schmid) had you round up the oney you take back. The latest version of the rules by Uberplay has you round down the money you get back.
As with the previous poster, I prefer rounding up the money coming back, especially is you are also playing with the latest rule that bids have to be more than the preceding bid, not just match it.
The new rules suck money out of the game at an alarming rate (particularly with 6 players) turning a great filler into a merely good one IMO.
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Chris Snyder
United States
Selinsgrove
Pennsylvania
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I don't think it really matters as long as play is consistent. If you round up, there will be more money and bids will go higher (or more money will be left over at the end). If you round down, there will be less money and bids will be lower. It all averages out in the end so I don't see that it would 'break' the game or anything.
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UA Darth
United States
Garwood
New Jersey
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Alrighty, thanks. The older version had rounding down.. I just got the newer one and it says to round up. Just making sure we weren't missing some balance that the original had!
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ackmondual
United States
Virginia
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When I played a couple of sessions of this, we rounded up the $$ we got back. I guess we either played it wrong, or the game owner (or perhaps the game owner was in another group so it was someone else) who just called the house rule on the Uberplay edition (IIRC).
Either way, it did make things more lively IMO. Ppl were VERY willing to back out on $1 since it meant a free property card. This led me to constantly bid in odd increments so that the next +1 bid would cause the other player to lose an extra $1 more than me
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Daniel Corban
Canada
Newmarket
Ontario
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Driver 8 wrote: I don't think it really matters as long as play is consistent. If you round up, there will be more money and bids will go higher (or more money will be left over at the end). If you round down, there will be less money and bids will be lower. It all averages out in the end so I don't see that it would 'break' the game or anything.
If you only play with 3 or 4 players, yes, I can see how there would be little difference. Once you get 5 or 6 players, the 5th or 6th player to bid will be screwed. By the time it gets to them, the bid will likely be 5 or 6, which means they are very likely to win the auction and spend a large amount of their money if they bid. This would likely result in the 5th/6th player always passing without thought.
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John W
United States
Sacramento
California
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I think there is one mathematical aspect that has been ignored with the round-up/round-down discussions here.
When you round-down the money you have to pay, you are actually increasing the disparity/penalty between the winning bidder and the 2nd-highest bidder.
So if the winning bid is 8, the 2nd-highest bidder only pays 3. This artificially exaggerates the $$$ difference, solely through rules interpretation.
I prefer a game where the 2nd-highest bidder in that example would pay 4, and the winner 8. It "feels" like it better approximates the transaction and is a fairer dynamic.
There is already such a huge savings difference in high-auctions between winner and 2nd-highest, I think it's a mistake to further increase that disparity (round-down also makes the bids higher, further exaggerating the effect).
In round-down games, I'd be actively trying to bid up the auction and try to get some sucker to always bid one more than me.
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