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I am completely torn between the both of these games. I know they are completely different in scope and strategy but for those of you who have had the pleasure of playing both hopefully you can help. Which game do you find more enjoyable and which game has more strategy/tactics? Does Zopp have the legs that Carrom appears to have?
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Tough question because they are different games. Zopp is fun but i prefer Carrom as it is a more tactical game (when you know how to aim correctly!).

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An interesting question, one that i'd be interesting in hearing about as well! Also, which do you find has the better replayability?
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Thanks for the response Geo!

Yeah, I'm realizing this decision is not going to be an easy one. I have changed my mind atleast 5 times in he last 2 days and unfortunately since I can't get my hands on either game unless I purchase them I have to go through word of mouth and reviews.

I really like the sound of positioning your players/pieces in Zopp for strategy purposes and I think I like the theme (if you can call it that) more then Carrom. It has more of a sport feel to it and I really like the knock-hockey look it has.

However, after watching several video's on Carrom it just seems like such a rewarding game. From what I have heard it also seems it also has an easier learning curve then Zopp, which would help when friends are over. Just so I can get a better idea of the tactics in Carrom can you explain some decisions that may come up in a game?

Thanks again!!
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An interesting question, one that i'd be interesting in hearing about as well! Also, which do you find has the better replayability?


Because of the investment purchasing either game would be, especially Carrom, I am also wondering the same about replayability. Usually in a situation like this I would either:

A) Research the hell out of both games
B) Go out and play both before making a purchase

Unfortunately both are not exactly possible. Because of the obscurity of Zopp there is not a whole lot of information out there. The video of the game looks awesome on YouTube, but it would be ideal if there was a user made video not being played by "experts". Obviously, I can't go out and play these games either as I would have never seen or heard of either of them if it wasn't for this website.
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Well I just ordered Zopp, should be getting it by Wednesday. My fiancee made the final call on this one. Plus, whereas Carrom is not going anywhere who knows if Zopp will ever be difficult to find in the States. I will be sure to post some impressions once I get a few games in.
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Plus, whereas Carrom is not going anywhere who knows if Zopp will ever be difficult to find in the States.


You are right. You can always get a good Carrom board later from http://www.surisports.com/

I don't know if you know the Carrom rules but there are a couple of decisions you have to make starting with the initial setup:

Pro players do not hit the pieces after setting them up directly with their striker, but they usually bounce it first on the opponent's line. Result is that after breaking most pieces end up closer to you and so they are easier to hit.

There's a purple piece. If you pot it and then you pot a piece of your own color you gain 3 points (if you win the round) or you prevent your opponent from gaining these points (if he wins). Part of the game is to setup your pieces so you can easily pot the purple piece and then one of your own.

As you get better you can pot pieces out of line of sight by bouncing your striker around or you can hide opponent pieces.

There are different ways to hit the striker which you have to practice, because many times you will be forced to shoot upside-down (towards your line).

If you ever decide to buy Carrom go for an expensive pro board. There's a huge difference in gameplay. The more times the striker bounces around the board if you shoot it hard, the better the table (6 bounces is perfect).

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There's a purple piece.


The queen.

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If you pot it and then you pot a piece of your own color you gain 3 points (if you win the round) or you prevent your opponent from gaining these points (if he wins).


It is a little more complex than this. While scoring varies regionally (I played with Indians from all over India), covering the queen is usually worth 3 points and ending the game is worth ~4 points. Thus getting both is worth 7 points but ending the game without having covered the queen is worth 4 points.

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There are different ways to hit the striker which you have to practice, because many times you will be forced to shoot upside-down (towards your line).


Backshots, shots in which the striker crosses your line heading towards you are often considered illegal (there is some regional variance). I find the game much improved when backshots are disallowed.

Additionally there are snooker-like rules concerning colours of pieces touched.

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If you ever decide to buy Carrom go for an expensive pro board.


True.
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