Arden Nelson Jr.
United States
Ohio
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Has anyone had the chance to play or even just see this game? How does it compare to the original Tier auf Teir?
The original have been a big hit with both children and people of all ages to be honest. I'm often only playing a game with only one neice or nephew at a time so this game could work. However, I did find the 4 player aspect helpful when working with older children or teens.
Is this one less challenging? Does it move more quickly? Thanks in advance.
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I asked someone who bought it for his kid about the game, this is what he said, in german: http://spielbox.de/phorum4/read.php4?f=8&i=233&t=195&
I can give you short extract/translation, though:
- they all had a lot of fun, even the grown-ups
- his son is only 3 and had no problems playing, although the game is recommended for older kids - adults and kids can play together and still have a challenging game for all involved
- every player gets 7 animals to stack - the components are well made
- to win you have to be the first to run out of animals - on your turn, you roll dice to determine whether to stack 1 or 2 animals, add another base animal, tell your opponent which animal he has to stack, or you have to let your opponents decide which animal you have to stack.
- there are three small variants included
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I myself could imagine that the game is shorter than the original, simply because it has fewer animals. But of course I haven't tried it yet.
On review it appears as if the reviewer I quoted actually played the original Tier auf Tier, not Duell, since he describes 7 animals per player and never actually mentions that there are only two players. On the pictures, the "Duell" version only has 4 animals for each player, 8 in total. A comment here on the geek describes it as 4 animals per player, too.
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Arden Nelson Jr.
United States
Ohio
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Thank you for the tranlation. I was thinking that it sounds a lot like the original. The original has been a huge hit for my nieces and nephews as well as the teens from church. I'm wondering if this two player version is worth me checking out
Here are my main questions: 1) Is it different enough that I would want both? 2) Is it more difficult or about the same? 3) Will it appeal to all or only certain age groups?
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Maarten Cappaert
Belgium Melsele Vlaanderen
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I've read a Dutch review where the game doesn't get such a good review.
Main complaint was lack of possible combinations to create a stack (because there are only 4 animals you soon see some paterns emerge).
I think that review and the bad score was justified.
However: they did also say the extra animals work perfectly with the original game. Because of their shape it increases the difficulty level for adults. Downside is you would need two sets of "Das Duell" to use it as an expansion.
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Arden Nelson Jr.
United States
Ohio
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Thank you, this helps a lot. I think if I got it would be as a two player expansion for the original. Haba has made many wonderful games and I'm a fan of the company. This one isn't as high on my list unless I hear something otherwise. The limited number of variety of pieces is part of what I was worried about.
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Diane Close
United States
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You'll find a pdf of the rules here. German, English, French, Dutch, Spanish and Italian all included.
Looks like this is only four new animals apiece: a tiger, a squirrel, an octopus and a duck/goose. 8 animals in total (2 of each type).
Edit: updated rules link
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Christopher DeFrisco
United States Ashland Oregon
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It appears as though Haba has moved their game rule PDFs around. The above link is broken. As of the writing of this post... here is the current location of the tier auf tier: das duell rules: http://www.haba.de/medias/sys_master/8451492279034720.pdf
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Jeff Goris
Australia Croydon NSW
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I haven't played the game, but I have read the rules and it is very simple. The game is quite different to the original. Whereas in the original, players take turns in order, in the Duel, the game is in real time with both players trying to be the first to complete the stack with all 4 of their animals. Dice are rolled, the large die indicating which animal to place at the bottom of the stack and the small die indicating which animal to place at the top of the stack. The middle two pieces of the stack can be in any order. Also, unlike the original, the pieces must be place one on top of the other to form a single file column.
Quote: To summarise the rules from the PDF (this is not a quote of the rules:
The game is best of 5 rounds. Each round is played as follows: Start a round by rolling both dice simultaneously. The result of the dice applies to both players. After the dice roll, both players commence building their stack. The first player to complete their stack calls "stop" and if the stack is built correctly, they win the round. If the stack is not build correctly the other player wins the round.
The stack is correctly built if all of the following apply: - All 4 animals (tiger, goose, octopus and squirrel) are used in the stack. - All the animals are place on their narrow edges, not on their large flat faces. - The top and bottom pieces must only touch one other piece. - The middle pieces must touch exactly two other pieces. - The animal indicated on the big die must be placed at the bottom of the stack. If the big die shows a question mark any animal may be used at the bottom of the stack. - The animal indicated on the small die must be placed at the top of the stack. If the small die shows a question mark any animal may be used at the top of the stack. - Exception: If both dice show the same animal, then this animal must be placed either at the bottom of the stack or at the top of the stack.
NOTE: It follows that if both dice show two question marks the stack can be built in any order.
I guess the game should play very quickly between veterans of the original.
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