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Brad Weage
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Be aware that there are two almost indiscernible editions of the boxed set, with different components.

Both sets include 4 soft plastic dinos, 4 energy tracks (to match the colors of the dinos), a 5-zone folding time track, and 1 6-sided die (with a dino image for the 1).

The original boxed set contains a deck (a big shrink-wrapped block) with 80 dinosaur cards, 29 specials, and 1 punch card (containing 4 small rings to use on the energy tracks and 1 circular "No Extinctions" marker). These cards are the same for all sets, and do not have the gold edges of the collectible cards made available at the same time (in 5-card packs). A list of all the available cards (in the collectible booster packs) is on the back of the time track, with the 109 from the boxed set marked with asterisks. (This set also includes two of the booster packs to get you hooked.) Rules are glossy and use some color.

The later boxed set does not contain the shrink-wrapped block of cards. Instead it contains 30 of the collectible booster packs, and a small baggy with 4 clear glass markers for the energy tracks, and 1 red glass marker to use as a "No Extinctions" marker. (The time track still lists the complete set on the back, still with asterisks for the no-longer present block of cards.) Rules are matte, and entirely monochrome.

The back of the box for the first set specifically lists "80 Dinosaur cards" and "29 Special cards". It also lists "two bonus Booster packs". Price code is "52995".

The back of the box for the second version lists "Over 100 full-color cards: ..." and does not mention the booster packs. Price code is "51995".

Other than that - I see no differences. Stock numbers are identical

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The newer edition appears to have been a way to use up excess already-produced booster packs. For those who felt that the small card-stock rings where "sneeze-away" items, the glass markers will be an improvement.

The booster card mix is basically 1/7 rare, 2/7 uncommon (most of which are the specials), and 4/7 common. (The uncommons are actually slightly less, because the 10 ultra-rares come out of that 2/7). In general, the commons are the herbivores, while the rares are the carnivores. This means the newer boxed set will typically provide some duplicates - mostly in the herd-dwelling types, and should have a different balance than in the original boxed set.

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The only game play difference is in the card mix. For the dinos, I prefer the newer card mix with more herbivores. For the specials it is a bit give and take. (During play, the specials are a separate deck, so there is no need to worry about the dino to special ratio.) In the old set it is nice to know you will have available the two rare specials (both are experts that repeatedly help you), the cancel an opposing special, the blow up a gadget, lucky shot - a guaranteed success, misfire - a guaranteed miss, etc. Many of the better specials, however, (at least those for interesting game play) are not in the original base set - including several which provide end of game bonus points for having captured a specific type of dinosaur (Hadrosaur, Sauropod, etc.) and even "Mated Pair" which requires any two identical dino cards and could not have worked as part of the original base set.

With the new set (150 cards) you should get 31+ specials (on average) - so comparable to the 29 of the original set. But that is 31 out of 60, so you will probably get some duplication. You will also get almost 120 dinos, of which 85+ should be common, out of 80 available, so lots of duplication is likely in the commons. For a typical game, you only use half the dino deck, and probably make it through most of the specials deck - leaving just enough behind for reasonable end-of-game uncertainty. Which specials you get will flavor the game, slightly. if you have a Bonehead Battles, then the expected increase in Pacycephalosaurs may make it a more desirable bonus than To The Death with the same reward for a large rare Theropod. But, all in all, this is a nearly perfect number of cards for this game.

BTW: You could try playing this with one of every card (if you were a bizarre collector who had 1 of each) and it would probably be awful. You are not supposed to have 68 rare carnivores balanced by only 80 common herbivores.

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Nice write-up.

Anyone want to do one for the Demo Set/Expansion? (Better yet, anyone want to sell me a Demo Set/Expansion and/or the original edition?) ;)
 
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fnord23 wrote:

Nice write-up.

Anyone want to do one for the Demo Set/Expansion?


I'm not sure if there would be any general value. The demo set is 2-player, with an orange and purple dino - the colors chosen so it can be added to the base set to allow six players. (1 is a new molding, while the other duplicates a dino from the base set.)

Includes two energy tracks (purple and orange), a 5-zone folding time track (that is blank on the back, instead of listing the card set), a small block of cards, markers, die, etc.

The block of cards really doesn't seem large enough to make for a good game. (But, I've never tried this as a 2-player.) The cards use a slightly different finish - so they would be discernable if added to the base set. And the cards here are mostly a subset of the ones from the original base set anyway. The demo set was printed before the original main game - and after the demo set went to press, at least one card was updated to better reflect a recent dino discovery. Although this can be used as an expansion to allow more players - it actually predates the original base set.

If you really have an interest, then I could put together a card list for this - but you would probably be better off just getting a base set. The new one isn't really any better or worse than the original set, just less predictable.
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Chris et al.,

I just listed for sale here on the Geek my own copy for this hard-to-find game. A very nice copy for anyone interested. --David
 
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