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Subject: "Plague" card. Too powerful? rss

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Timo Hanschke
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Hi everybody!

Thanks to Tom Vasel's Dice Tower and the good feedback here in this forum I bought this game last Saturday and had the first game today with my family. It was great!

However, one card seemed to be too powerful. The "plague" magic card.

It's not that you force the other players to discard a follower.
BUT: You force them to turn the cards face down.
The magic card DOESN'T say that they are turned face up again afterwards!
That means that all the players can do almost nothing during their turns, as they can only turn the followers face up again AFTER their turn. If they are lucky, they have a cost-1-follower card on their hands, so they can buy a new follower to play this card.
Effectively, you harm all other payer (by discarding one of their followers each) AND you have VERY good chances to force them to pass one round without doing anything. Played at the right moment, this does not only give you the advantage of having (almost) 2 turns in a row, you could END the game to win!

Anybody else who experienced this effect to be too powerful?


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Timo
 
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Michael Denman
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As you're playing it, I'd agree that the card is too powerful. We only turn them face down to randomly mix them and turn them right back up again.
 
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The intention of the card is to randomize the followers being discarded. You flip them all up after you choose one from each player.

Try it that way, and you'll see that it works fine.
 
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Timo Hanschke
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Howitzer_120mm wrote:
The intention of the card is to randomize the followers being discarded. You flip them all up after you choose one from each player.


Are you sure?
I could assume the same... But if you strickly follow instructions, the effect is as described above.

I've read answers from Andrei Burago to other questions before. He usually quotes the exact writing of the rules. For example when answering to the question how the exchange of cards works.

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Try it that way, and you'll see that it works fine.


Thought about it anyway, no worries. ;)

I just would be interested in what the designer has to say to this. ;)


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Timo
 
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Michael Denman
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I don't even turn cards face down when I use them, so I'm a total rebel using house rules anyway.
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Andrei Burago
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Sworddancer wrote:

I just would be interested in what the designer has to say to this.


You turn the followers back up after plague has been played. I am sorry that it is not spelled clearly enough in the rulebook. I guess you are probably the first to try playing the game with followers turned face down though
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Timo Hanschke
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Hello Andrei,

thanks for your reply!

Played that game with my mother, stepfather, and half brother yesterday night, when I visited them for mom's birthday.
She left myself (an old gamer) way behind with her points with this card. ;)

Thanks for this nice game!
And now that I created some german game aids, I think I'll have to bring in a another copy of this game, so I can leave one of them with my family. ;)


Regards,

Timo


 
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