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I just got done approving the 45,000th entry to the database. 45,000. It's been just a little over 10 months since BGG hit 40,000, 21 since 35,000, and 30 months since 30,000. Approximating when the threshold was crossed, it appears that Age of Industry was the 45,000th game in the database.

Here are some stats that are significant to me as I've been approving games.

Of the 45,000 items in the database:

~17,700 (39.3%) have an Uncredited designer - This figure gets updated from time to time, but it seems that the database is consistently ~40% uncredited. This means that it's probably time for another Corrections Drive

~1000 (2.2%) have an Unknown publisher - This figure is updated from time to time, but based on previous milestone posts, BGG holds at about 2% with Unknown publishers.

Based on information from a special search, ~5000 items in the database have no picture associated with them. Maybe it's time for a picture drive as well.

~940 listed as Self-published, and ~500 listed as Unpublished.

I no longer have accurate -opoly figures for the database, but Yehuda's blog lists 1785 versions as of 01/21/2010. Were all of these in the database by the Monopoly Fiat, they would comprise 4% of the database.

Since they became the print-on-demand choice for a lot of independent game designers, I've seen ~100 new games published by users through The Game Crafter this last year.

If you only played one new game or expansion per day, you would finish playing all of the games and expansions that are currently in the database in 123.5 years.

If you started playing one game or expansion per day starting today, you would likely never finish playing all of the games and expansions in the database. As the database continues to grow, there have been an average of 1600-2000 new games and expansions per year since 2003, and there are already 368 new games in the database for 2010. By the current rate, to keep up you would need to play at least 6-7 new games or expansions daily, and with that you would barely make progress.

Based on an average play time of 90 minutes per entry, it would take 7.7 years of continuous play to play every game and expansion in the database once.

If you only took 30 seconds to scan a game entry, it would take you two-and-a-half weeks to look through the entire database.

When I was in law school, my Securities Regulations textbook was 1000 pages (500 leaves) and was 1 1/4" thick. A book of the BGG database printed on the same stock of paper with one game per page would be a over four and a half feet thick -- wider than all of the alea games lined up together on a shelf.

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Presuming an average box size of 7 cm x 31 cm x 21.5 cm (the size of an alea large box (Puerto Rico)), the average volume of a game is 4882.5 cm^3, and the displacement of 45,000 of these average games is 219,712,500 cm^3 or 219.7125 m^3. My home is a smallish cottage, ~960 square feet with 8 foot ceilings. That works out to an approximate internal volume of 7680 ft^3 (ignoring walls). Converting that to metric yields 217.473 m^3. Therefore, all of the games in the database could not physically fit within my home.

At the current rate, approximately 20-30 new game entries are submitted every day. That, coupled with hundreds of corrections, links, designers, publishers, and whole loads of new users mean that after 10 years BGG is still growing at a record pace. At the current rate, I expect us to hit 50,000 items in the BGG database by October.
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Congrats!

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I no longer have accurate -opoly figures for the database, but Yehuda's blog lists 1785 versions as of 01/21/2010. Were all of these in the database by the Monopoly Fiat, they would comprise 4% of the database.

Justanopoly should be a Category. Then this number would be accurate, and we could do anti-opoly screening.

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At the current rate, approximately 20-30 new game entries are submitted every day. That, coupled with hundreds of corrections, links, designers, publishers, and whole loads of new users mean that after 10 years BGG is still growing at a record pace. At the current rate, I expect us to hit 50,000 items in the BGG database by October.


So you don't believe in Maximum Game, similar to Maximum Oil?
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Congrats!

skelebone wrote:
~17,700 (39.3%) have an Uncredited designer - This figure gets updated from time to time, but it seems that the database is consistently ~40% uncredited. This means that it's probably time for another Corrections Drive

~1000 (2.2%) have an Unknown publisher - This figure is updated from time to time, but based on previous milestone posts, BGG holds at about 2% with Unknown publishers.

as an fyi to anyone that may want to help with this: if you submit a correction to update one of these, don't submit the correction on the "(Uncredited)" designer or the "(Unknown)" publisher page, do it instead on the game pages by adding the correct designer or publisher and removing placeholder one.

I have seen several correction requests to change the name of the "(Uncredited)" designer to a different person. That would be one *prolific* designer all of a sudden
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out of curiosity how many of those 45,000 are RPG's thanks to rpg geek side of bgg?
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MartinStever wrote:
So you don't believe in Maximum Game, similar to Maximum Oil?


Not any more than I believe in Maximum Literature or Maximum Cheese.
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out of curiosity how many of those 45,000 are RPG's thanks to rpg geek side of bgg?


Zero. They have their own numbering system, though the DB structure does utilize one set of gameid figures for the counting. RPGG has over 15,000 items, which is one reason why the current id numbering for the games on BGG is over 65,000.
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I am still curious about the effects of the last corrections drive - how successful was it?
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skelebone wrote:
If you started playing one game or expansion per day starting today, you would likely never finish playing all of the games and expansions in the database. As the database continues to grow, there have been an average of 1600-2000 new games and expansions per year since 2003, and there are already 368 new games in the database for 2010. By the current rate, to keep up you would need to play at least 6-7 new games or expansions daily, and with that you would barely make progress.

Based on an average play time of 90 minutes per entry, it would take 7.7 years of continuous play to play every game and expansion in the database once.

If you only took 30 seconds to scan a game entry, it would take you two-and-a-half weeks to look through the entire database.


Seems like boardgaming is a hobby for a lifetime and beyond!

I need to make a clone and prolong my life to try everything out. Nay, make that 5 clones - RPGs are also highly interesting and fun! Oh my....



Good summary, though! Thanks!thumbsup
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I am still curious about the effects of the last corrections drive - how successful was it?


I don't have full figures on how much was done, but my records from that week have me at working through ~1750 corrections, and I recall that many were updates to add multiple designers or artists to games, so I'd estimate around 3000 new credits were added to the DB.
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My head just exploded. It was already on shaky ground up until the 30 seconds per page stat and then POP!
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And I have only played like 30 of them!! I better get to work/play.
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Holy ****!!! I didn't even know there were that many games out there, maybe a few thousand, but 45! Sheesh!
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Congratulations and celebrations! How about an "I was there when BGG reached 45,000 games" microbadge?

And about that monopoly thing: the day someonde adds monopoly-opoly is he day I will start worrying. By the way, does a BGG-opoly exists yet? Where Puerto Rico is Boardwalk and not much imagination needed to fill in the rest. Just choose games, and games again in the menu, and there is your game!.
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Big thumbs up to game submitters (and to those who submit corrections!). There are many, but by my estimation, 3% of the database comes from this guy alone:

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you were in law school? wow!
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So this is taking into account all the ID numbers that used to be games but have since been merged into other games...WOW!! Thanks for all the hard work Scott.
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Isn't it true that around 15,000 of those entries are Fantasy Flight Expansions?
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Blott wrote:
So this is taking into account all the ID numbers that used to be games but have since been merged into other games...WOW!! Thanks for all the hard work Scott.


There are actually 45,000+ game items in the database. This is measured by actual entries, not by ID numbers, so mergers don't affect the number.
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Truly Amazing!

This has long been my favorite website and I expect it to remain so for years yet to come.

Great job!
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I think I'll panic my wife and say I plan to buy the entire BGG database of games.
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Roninsfx wrote:
Holy ****!!! I didn't even know there were that many games out there, maybe a few thousand, but 45! Sheesh!meeple

I know folks who have a couple thousand games in their personal collections!
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skelebone wrote:
If you only played one new game or expansion per day, you would finish playing all of the games and expansions that are currently in the database in 123.5 years.


Guilty as charged, based on my recent buying splurges. blush
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