Hans Persson
Sweden
Linköping
Unspecified
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byronczimmer wrote: Forgot one:
About 1.5% of the database has the word 'Monopoly' in the title.
Now that is depressing.
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Atomic wedgie
United States
Vancouver
Washington
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Crap, that now means that there are at least 3,000 game pages that I haven't visited yet.
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Simon Lundström
Sweden
Örbyhus
Now who are these five?
Come, come, all children who love fairy tales.
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pinkunicorn wrote: byronczimmer wrote: Forgot one:
About 1.5% of the database has the word 'Monopoly' in the title. Now that is depressing.
Yes, they (or most of them) should be regarded as one game, not 600 games.
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BT Carpenter
United States
Reston
Virginia
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Zimeon wrote: pinkunicorn wrote: byronczimmer wrote: Forgot one:
About 1.5% of the database has the word 'Monopoly' in the title. Now that is depressing. Yes, they (or most of them) should be regarded as one game, not 600 games.
Old fight - it is what it is - accept it.
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Simon Lundström
Sweden
Örbyhus
Now who are these five?
Come, come, all children who love fairy tales.
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Nope. Reason never gives up.
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Hans Persson
Sweden
Linköping
Unspecified
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byronczimmer wrote: Zimeon wrote: pinkunicorn wrote: byronczimmer wrote: Forgot one:
About 1.5% of the database has the word 'Monopoly' in the title. Now that is depressing. Yes, they (or most of them) should be regarded as one game, not 600 games. Old fight - it is what it is - accept it.
I don't really mind crap like 600 Monopoly clones in the database; I can always ignore the corner where they lurk.
What I find strange is that at the same time games like Magic: the Gathering has one even though most if not all the expansions introduce new concepts to the game, adding much more than most other expansions seen in the database. It's not like the database would get full by a few dozen more expansions.
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Simon Lundström
Sweden
Örbyhus
Now who are these five?
Come, come, all children who love fairy tales.
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pinkunicorn wrote: What I find strange is that at the same time games like Magic: the Gathering has one even though most if not all the expansions introduce new concepts to the game, adding much more than most other expansions seen in the database.
There are many games with "invisible" different editions that add or change stuff that affects game play a lot more than many of the versions that have caused splits here. Making one single entry for each and everyone of those versions, i.e. being consistent with the current database philosophy, would create a confusing clutter that would next to render the game pages and game forums unusable, or at least, very weak.
Which is why I am most ardently against the current database philosophy. And always will be.
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Darren M
New Zealand
Nelson
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The BGG Database is quickly approaching 50,000. Currently there are 49,400+ games/expansions in the system as well as 360+ games in the pending queue which puts the current total at nearly 49,800.
Years ago I'm sure even the most optimistic wouldn't have thought the database would have grown to this level in just a few years.
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Sure.
Netherlands
Rijen
Noord Brabant
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I'm trying to get a few merged, though...
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Hilko Drude
Germany
Goettingen
Lower Saxony
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BaSL wrote: I'm trying to get a few merged, though...
I will try to counter that move - in the long run, I don't think you can merge as fast as I can submit... 
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Simon Lundström
Sweden
Örbyhus
Now who are these five?
Come, come, all children who love fairy tales.
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BaSL wrote: I'm trying to get a few merged, though...
Please do… like Busstop and Busstop: The Boardgame. They're slightly different, but really the same.
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Sure.
Netherlands
Rijen
Noord Brabant
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HilkMAN wrote: BaSL wrote: I'm trying to get a few merged, though... I will try to counter that move - in the long run, I don't think you can merge as fast as I can submit...
What?! Nooooooooooooo!
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Sure.
Netherlands
Rijen
Noord Brabant
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Zimeon wrote: BaSL wrote: I'm trying to get a few merged, though... Please do… like Busstop and Busstop: The Boardgame. They're slightly different, but really the same.
If there's any difference to the rules, it's a new game.
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Simon Lundström
Sweden
Örbyhus
Now who are these five?
Come, come, all children who love fairy tales.
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BaSL wrote: If there's any difference to the rules, it's a new game.
No, it is not. For database efficiency, it's another version of the game, not another game. But that discussion is held elsewhere
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Sure.
Netherlands
Rijen
Noord Brabant
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Zimeon wrote: BaSL wrote: If there's any difference to the rules, it's a new game. No, it is not. For database efficiency, it's another version of the game, not another game. But that discussion is held elsewhere
Yes, it is. For BGG efficiency, it's another game.
(Yeah, I should read the thread first, but this is my initial thought. New and/or changed rules = new game entry. If not, where would it end?)
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Simon Lundström
Sweden
Örbyhus
Now who are these five?
Come, come, all children who love fairy tales.
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BaSL wrote: Yes, it is. For BGG efficiency, it's another game.
No, because the efficiency can be reached with the versions system. Registering them as different games split up the games forums in unnecessary ways. the problem with this is that the the use of games forums is rendered difficult – having several places causes the dicsussion for a certain game to lose a central place. The majority of discussions for a game is valid for all versions, even if there are slight component/rules differences.
BaSL wrote: New and/or changed rules = new game entry. If not, where would it end?
We would end up with one entry for Space Hulk, with 3 versions (1e, 2e, 3e), with one entry for Cosmic Encounter, with X versions (Eon, Mayfair, West End Games, Avalon Hill, FFG)
If not, we will end up with 4 Robo Rallys, 2 Agricolas, 2 Betrayals, 3 Carcassonnes…
…which won't serve much purpose unless for specific marketplace info and perhaps sometimes image galleries. And that can already be fixed with the versions system.
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Christian Turkiewicz
Germany
Losheim am See
Saarland
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On RPGgeek there are RPG-Family, RPG, RPG-Item, RPG-Item-Version. Maybe on BGG there could be a similar approach.
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Simon Lundström
Sweden
Örbyhus
Now who are these five?
Come, come, all children who love fairy tales.
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Vincent_V wrote: On RPGgeek there are RPG-Family, RPG, RPG-Item, RPG-Item-Version. Maybe on BGG there could be a similar approach.
It's one solution, but it's not necessary to keeep the granularity that high. We just need [game] and [version]. And maybe [family], though the families have been going haywire at latest (bunching together games with fantasy art, games containing dogs and whatever).
But that's discussed in the other thread
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Sure.
Netherlands
Rijen
Noord Brabant
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Zimeon wrote: BaSL wrote: Yes, it is. For BGG efficiency, it's another game. No, because the efficiency can be reached with the versions system. Registering them as different games split up the games forums in unnecessary ways. the problem with this is that the the use of games forums is rendered difficult – having several places causes the dicsussion for a certain game to lose a central place. The majority of discussions for a game is valid for all versions, even if there are slight component/rules differences. BaSL wrote: New and/or changed rules = new game entry. If not, where would it end? We would end up with one entry for Space Hulk, with 3 versions (1e, 2e, 3e), with one entry for Cosmic Encounter, with X versions (Eon, Mayfair, West End Games, Avalon Hill, FFG) If not, we will end up with 4 Robo Rallys, 2 Agricolas, 2 Betrayals, 3 Carcassonnes… …which won't serve much purpose unless for specific marketplace info and perhaps sometimes image galleries. And that can already be fixed with the versions system.
I've started reading the thread you've mentioned and you make some valid points. No doubt, the functions that can be implemented with Versions should/could cover a lot of 'problems'.
Still, there are a lot of games that should not be merged. But mostly this will remain a discussion of I-want-this-versus-I-want-that.
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Darren M
New Zealand
Nelson
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Well here we are on the last day of 2010 and there are 49,613 games listed in the BGG database and 398 games in the pending queue which puts us just over the 50,000 mark.
Congrats to everyone on the work put into the site and here's to seeing 100,000 games by 2020.
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Martin Rundkvist
Sweden
Saltsjöbaden
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Let's say that the top 5% of the ranking list define really good games. Then anything in the top 2500 is worthwhile! I need to stop thinking in terms of the top-100.
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