Benny Sperling
United States
Arlington
Texas
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I've been looking at Vasco da Gama for quite a while, but I'm having trouble justifying it since I already own the following:
Macao
Navegador
Endeavor
Is Vasco Da Gama different enough from those or better that it's worth the purchase? Thanks!
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Lee Ambolt
Sweden
Lund
Skåne
Ingen Reklam Tack!
Linus Per Ambolt 13.12.2010
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I havent tried Endeavor yet but it is not really like Macao or Navegador at all, although it is analytical and perhaps it shares that characteristic somewhat with Navegador. Its main feature is the use of numbered action discs to obtain the resources you need to man and send ships out into the new world, ´the theme works very nicely and the components are gorgeous but its true that its more "theme to help you with the mechanics" than "theme to immerse you in its subject matter". You wont necessarily feel the same exploration type feeling as with the ships and regions in Navegador, but you know, it really is a very nice game, can be very cutthroat in the way that the action cost disc moves (reminiscent of the provost in Caylus), making it more expensive to take the earlier actions but you can also give up the action and take money so it can be very competitive and interactive, and being able to nap the right crew members, captains, ship projects etc. i also rather like the way the VPs work with the ships as they "go out to sea" (go up the tracks to further regions)
Tom Vasel slagged it off quite a bit, but you should take his opinion with a grain of salt especially on this one, this is a really quality euro, and well worth trying out.
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Kai Jensen
United States
Santa Rosa
California
I was going to buy OverText but I didn't know what to say with it!
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I own Vasco, Endeavor and Macao and think they are different enough to enjoy them all. (And I've been eyeing Navegador, too, but I'm hoping a guy in my gaming group will drop his bucks on it first.)
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Ben
United States
Washington
Dist of Columbia
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Within the classic Euro pantheon, Vasco da Gama is not much like those other games, at least mechanically (I would compare it to Endeavor a bit in terms of it being abstract, however).
If you play games frequently and primarily enjoy games with the same play time and complexity as those mentioned above, I think Vasco da Gama is certainly worth buying as something different to add to the rotation. It's my favorite game of that genre.
On the other hand, it is still a somewhat typical Euro focusing on action efficiency and money/resource management. If you feel that you don't get the above-listed games to the table often enough as it is, or you enjoy more diversity in your game selections, then you probably don't need another game of that sort competing for table time.
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Drew
United States
Eau Claire
Wisconsin
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I own and enjoy Vasco da Gama, Endeavor, and Macao. They're all very different sorts of games, and I'm happy to have all three in my collection.
Vasco da Gama, while technically not a "worker placement" game, has the same sort of action selection, with an added emphasis on timing your actions. (For example, in Stone Age you can do all your chosen actions in whichever sequence you like. In VdG, you set the sequence of those actions as you choose them.)
For me, VdG has an extra spark that sets it above the "Just Another Soulless Euro" crowd.
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Dave Eisen
United States
Silicon Valley
California
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It is very different from the listed games. It is fundamentally a worker placement game where you manage timing to get the actions you want and take risk that the actions might not be available. None of the rest of the games you listed is worker placement.
There are many games which are and I would not get Vasco da Gama ahead of those. Caylus being the most obvious example. But the ones listed have little in common with Vasco da Gama other than possible exploration theme.
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Steve Duff
Canada
Ottawa
Ontario
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I own all but Navegador (but have played it multiple times), and think they're all great. And I would have no problem owning Navegaor as well.
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Michael Denman
United States
Katy
Texas
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I am very much the sort of person who just can't stand to own two games that are too similar. That said, I think you'd be fine with all four of these. VdG is absolutely my favorite of the four. Endeavor's in second and Macao's in third. I've only read the rules for Navegador, but it looks to have far more in common with all of the other rondel games than these you've listed.
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Benny Sperling
United States
Arlington
Texas
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thanks for the responses! I'll definitely look to grab it then.
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Morgan Dontanville
United States
Brooklyn
New York
Plate of Shrimp.
Here we are folks, the dream we all dream of.
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It isn't like any of the games that you've mentioned.
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