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Subject: Dingo Babies - An 1848 Session rss

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This report was posted on the 18xx-Online google group mail list, but I'm posting it here as well for those who are interested. For more info, or to join our group, check out http://groups.google.com/group/18xx-online.

Today, Breno joined myself and my lone regular local face-to-face
opponent for a 3P game using Skype. I broadcast our board to Breno and
we all used a shared spreadsheet to do the game accounting. The game
of the day was Double-O's 1848: Australia. Gregor had played the game
with me once in the past (the only play for either of us) while Breno
was more experienced, which allowed us to play at a respectable pace,
only looking up rules on 3 or 4 occasions.

The whole game took about 4 hours on the button.

In the initial auction, I bought two privates and Gregor bought the
remaining 4, Breno took full start cash into SR1.

I started CAR at $100 (foolishly, I should have let the private pay
and started something else). Gregor started QR, Breno started both SAR
and VR at $70 and loaded up on shares.

I started WA next, while Gregor started up NSW. Shortly after this, I
started FT and then Breno the COM, but Breno ramped up his earnings
with SAR and VIR so quickly that he had basically secured the win by
the 3rd Share Dealing round. I did what I could to try and pull back,
but it was a losing battle. Gregor's game ended in SR3 when he gave up
a priority deal for SR4 that he could have had otherwise but he
misunderstood the rules and believed that holding priority wasn't of
value since COM shares wouldn't be available _for purchase_ in the
coming SR (but they would be).

When the big rust came, my WA was the only company that went into
receivership. Having my cert limit reduced by two more than my
opponents was a brutal side effect I'd failed to consider when we were
getting close to rusting.

I managed to get a loan and do a 4-Train retain on COM to upgrade to
the D-train before Breno was going to. This let me run a 5T and D on
COM for _massive_ dividends, but there was no getting back to Breno,
especially since I was down two certs. I paid out something like
$109/share at the end, but the game was quite short and Breno had
built such a huge early lead. The game ended at OR 5.3. Gap from 1st
to 2nd was around $1,000.

1. Breno
2. Justin
3. Gregor



This is a fantastic title I'm looking forward to playing again now
that I have a better grasp of how the game develops. I was curious
about how relevant the Bank of England shares would be. The Bank of
England finished at $180 stock value and was paying out $38/share at
the end which was not the worst dividend in the game but not in the
top half of the companies.
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Mike Bazynski
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jrebelo wrote:
The Bank of
England finished at $180 stock value and was paying out $38/share at
the end which was not the worst dividend in the game but not in the
top half of the companies.


my experience is that BoE shares are a good investment only during midgame before permanent trains appear, when loans will usually be taken, and when many companies might be withholding dividends making them unattractive for investment. by game end the haven't been a desirable part of game-finishing portfolio.

(but we have not seen even 1 company in receivership, the cert limit penalty is quite scary)
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Does it seem not unusual to you that we had only 5 share dealing rounds all game? The Diesel was purchased before SR5 and then we were done after the 5th set of ORs. It may be perfectly normal, just curious what others are seeing, as it felt rather quick to me (which I suppose it ought to be as a smaller game). Breno's double float at the start surely must have sped it up slightly.
 
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You guys paid a little much for the private companies: early dividends can be high if you connect those Ks quickly (so shares are better than usual in the earliest early game), that and the extra difficulty in getting capital into a company (no payouts for Bank pool or IPO shares) makes them less good than in other 1830-derived games.
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BrenoK wrote:
You guys paid a little much for the private companies: early dividends can be high if you connect those Ks quickly (so shares are better than usual in the earliest early game), that and the extra difficulty in getting capital into a company (no payouts for Bank pool or IPO shares) makes them less good than in other 1830-derived games.


As is always the case with players new to a title, I had no idea at all what the value of the private companies should have been. I am quite certain that you're right about our overpaying, now that it's all said and done.
 
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One thing that left me wondering is why $5 isn't the lowest non-zero money possible in companies: since no dividends ever go into the companies, companies will only have a $1 chip/note due to inter-company train purchases, making those one-dollars (and those four-dollars) useless, specially considering how you can't pay out of your own pocket.

(not sure if I was able to express what I'm thinking)
 
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