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Subject: 'Underbluffing' rss

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Erik Busse
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Some questions related to 'underbluffing':

1. Can I move only 2 spaces even I announce '3 of a kind' which allows a move of 3.

2. I have a 3 of a kind but only want to move 2 spaces, so I announce '2 pairs'. Someone forces me to disclose: do I loose?

3. I have thrown a full house. Can I announce a street (which is less than what I have) to trick someone into forcing me to reveal and sending him to jail? (In real poker, underbluffing is allowed. Here also?)

Best regards,

Kire



 
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Robert Ell
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1. No.
2. Yes. If someone calls your bluff and you have anything other than what you claimed, you got caught.
3. I can barely comprehend what you are asking here. You can never force someone to call your bluff. If you have a full house, call a straight, and someone calls your bluff -- you are caught. Why would they go to jail? I'm having a hard time following your logic here.
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Mike S
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iirc .... when an opponent calls a bluff while it isn't, the opponent goes to jail.
But regarding the OPs 3rd question : If you underbluff and no-one calls a bluff, you move your pawn as if it was a street (and not as a full house).
You don't need to show your dice to your opponents afterwards. So they will never find out if it was a bluff or not.
 
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Thanks for the quick reply.
For 1 & 2, is this based on the rules? Where did you find this?

What if I have a full house, and I announce a pair. what if they call me? As I have also a pair, I guess I win, even if I have more?

Related to 3. In the game of poker dice, you are allowed to 'underbluf' to confuse the other players. In case of a call you will win as the dice are lower than what you announced. This trick is often used to confuse the other players. It would be good to use this rule also for this game. In the rules, it isn't clearly explained if it is allowed or not.

 
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Mike S
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Elltrains answers to Q1 and Q2 are indeed in the rules. At least what I remember. I'd have to check to be sure though. I have the german version by the way.

Regarding your other issue .... a full house indeed comes with 2 pairs ... it's still a full house though. So when an opponent calls your bluff, you go to jail wether you like it or not ninja
It's basically like this ... when you bluff it's like saying 'I got a pair, not more or less.'

And regarding your last item about the 'underbluffing', there are no words like 'underbluffing' or 'overbluffing' used in the rules. Not that I remember anyway. You can just bluff. So you can bluff whatever you want.Underbluffing is a common strategy I've used probably in all games I played so far. It is a nice way to get to a certain spot I want to get to. Especially train stations cool
 
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Erik Busse
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Mike S,

Is this your understanding of the game rules? I do not find this explicitely in the rules?

Kire
 
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Mike S
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This is indeed my understanding. In my understanding the word 'bluff' just means that you got something else than you're claiming. So the actually dice roll can be both, better or worse.
 
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Erik Busse
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OK, now I understand. For me, bluffing is only pretending that you have more than you actually have. I hope the game authors can help in explaining what bluff is for them?
 
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Mike S
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You could also interpret it like this:
To bluff means to talk something better .... as in ..... moving my cowboy only 3 spaces instead of 4 is better in my 'gaming' situation. So a lower dice score could eventually be a 'better' outcome for my game strategy.
 
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