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In the rulebook it says that after a battle if the active player was the attacker and he is the only survivor he could choose between 3 actions (sac, occupy or convert). So, what happens if there is no defender and therefore no fight. If that would handled like a fight, I could do the following: attack a province with 2 troops, win and occupy a caravan. Then I could move another army in the province and choose something else which would be against the intend of the rule in the first sentence. I am also wondering if it is possible to move a legion from a caravan to a market or another caravan next turn. If yes, would that be a new attack? Would Helen of Troy trigger? Anybody who could clarify that for me?
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Maarten D. de Jong
Netherlands
Zaandam
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thyl wrote: In the rulebook it says that after a battle if the active player was the attacker and he is the only survivor he could choose between 3 actions (sac, occupy or convert). So, what happens if there is no defender and therefore no fight.
If there is still an enemy province marker then that marker counts as the 'enemy unit', albeit one which is always defeated automatically. So you get the bonus actions.
Quote: If that would handled like a fight, I could do the following: attack a province with 2 troops, win and occupy a caravan. Then I could move another army in the province and choose something else which would be against the intend of the rule in the first sentence.
The rule is that once a province is 'beaten', you can do one of three things. You can either occupy, sack, or convert. So in your example the first legions choose occupation, meaning that any subsequent troops of yours which enter that province in the same turn must also choose occupation. Had you chosen conversion or sacking, then that would have been your sole bonus action, irrespective of how many troops of yours entered the province later in the same turn.
If during the next round you are still in that province once your turn comes again, you can choose one of the three bonus actions anew. You can for example have your legions dismount from occupation and remove one caravan or market or temple or city. Or try to convert the province. Occupation gives an immediate effect; the other two take a while to be successful.
Quote: I am also wondering if it is possible to move a legion from a caravan to a market or another caravan next turn. If yes, would that be a new attack?
Yes you can, but no, the attack has already succeeded by that point.
Quote: Would Helen of Troy trigger?
No, Helen only works against troops which enter the province, not against those which are already there. So in the situation where you have two troops in province A for at least one round already, and I merely a ownership marker but with Helen, and you enter the province with a new troop unit; then I can convert that new legion into one of my own, and thus cause a fight with the two already present troops unless you withdraw them first.
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1) after a battle, if there remains both the attacker and the original owner, can another (3rd) player attack that same province?
if so does the 3rd player have to attack both players on that same turn or only the owner of the province.
2) if player enters a province owned by Helen Troy which as no defending troops- is that an attack? as the only action that player can conduct is a "situation after a battle"- like occupy, sack, convert.
- so therefore no conversions of that players legions?
3) iF Hellen of Troy has no legions to swap in for a conversion (all legions are in play on board)- there is no conversion of the legion heart- so he should remain as is, and not be removed/dead?
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