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What's the heaviest 3 player game that takes over 3 hours to sap all of one's brain power causing he/she to lose their will to live but its fun?



Non-traditional wargame only, please. And, games that are struggles with 3, not games that you can play with 3 but really aren't bloodbaths at that number. Like Struggle of Empires- sure, you can play it with 3 but its not fun at that number.

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Antiquity

These came up in our discussion last night. What else?


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Easily,

God's Playground

I have this on my Wishlist. I played it just once with two friends. It only plays three and is a real brain burner clocking in at least three hours. The terrific thing here is you must struggle against each other, fight against the game but also give just enough cooperation such that everything doesn't fall apart.
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I'm told After the Flood is such a game, though I haven't played it.
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These are good calls all things being considered. However, for some reason I'm not a huge fan of them. I LOVE Wallace games but these have fell a bit short in our group.


 
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DocStryder wrote:
Easily,

God's Playground

I have this on my Wishlist. I played it just once with two friends. It only plays three and is a real brain burner clocking in at least three hours. The terrific thing here is you must struggle against each other, fight against the game but also give just enough cooperation such that everything doesn't fall apart.


Andrew, you might want to reconsider this one. I am with you concerning Martin Wallace games (being hit or miss). However, I think this one is great because the theme of the game resembles The Republic of Rome since there are times when you want the other guy to fail and time when you have no choice but to support Poland. This is the one I thought of when I saw the topic header. Recommended.
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I always like to recommend Titan. It weighs 9 lbs which is heavier than most games. Though perhaps it is a traditional wargame. I don't know the traditional vs non-traditional wargame distinction.

It plays very well with three players and avoids the kingmaker problem inherent in most 3 player games.
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How about Maria, or its predecessor Friedrich (which is designed for four but works well with three). Brilliant games, easy to learn but with great depth.
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I always like to recommend Titan. It weighs 9 lbs which is heavier than most games. Though perhaps it is a traditional wargame. I don't know the traditional vs non-traditional wargame distinction.

It plays very well with three players and avoids the kingmaker problem inherent in most 3 player games.


It's also the greatest game ever created. Good choice.
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If you're into sci-fi, consider Web and Starship.
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Through the Ages of course - but I see it's in your hot top 10 already.
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I would have to go with Revolution: The Dutch Revolt 1568-1648.

It's not quite 3 hours, but El Caballero is quite a brain burner also.
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... or Titan and The Republic of Rome..
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Die Macher (for 3 is not intense enough)
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If you're into sci-fi, consider Web and Starship.


First thing I thought of! Glad you covered it!

And if you want hard science, I'd second the above nomination for High Frontier. Also Maria and Friedrich.
 
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What is "heavy"? It depends on experience and individual perspective. I'm lucky to be a hybrid type gamer that thoroughly enjoys both Euro's and wargame / simulations. My last two purchases have been "Clash of Monarch's" and "Lancaster".

I'm a huge fan of God's Playground. But "heavy" is not a word I'd use to describe it. For me, a Euro can't usually achieve "heavy" classification. A game that takes a few hours or less can be outstanding, entertaining, and involve countless decisions - but it usually won't be "heavy". A simulation on the other hand that a sequence of poor moves (or damn good ones) could mean the point of no return for a player - that's "heavy" regardless of size of rule book.

A good Euro will try to keep all players "in it" and interested. Most simply don't allow the removal of a player and that's a good thing. Whilst we all play to try to win, I think this factor above all others denies me from ever being able to call a Euro game "heavy".

For note purposes, I consider Clash of Monarch's to be medium weight.
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How about:

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Samurai BUT everyone MUST be a great player or it is not fun. Because it is a brain melter if one player is really not up for concentrating the game is ruined for everyone.

Very good three player game.

I like Brass as a three player game as well.
 
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Samurai BUT everyone MUST be a great player or it is not fun. Because it is a brain melter if one player is really not up for concentrating the game is ruined for everyone.

Very good three player game.

I like Brass as a three player game as well.


I like Brass too but I have never had it take more than 2+ hours.

Another on is Baltimore & Ohio. I have never played but by all accounts it takes 4-6 hours.
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May I suggest 18AL. It's not a wargame, but share the strong conflictual aspect with them. It might not be the heaviest of the 18XX serie but it takes easily three hours and plays well with three players (and is readily available). A true extenuous brainburner, especially when familiar with the rules and rythm... and very competitive and agressive.
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I love Maria and Friedrich, but they are not as heavy as Clash of Monarchs.
 
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God's Playground and After the Flood are both excellent choices for your query, but for my money the title goes to Here I stand. It plays extremely well with 3, and will take you about 6-9 hours to play.
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Sphere wrote:
How about Maria, or its predecessor Friedrich (which is designed for four but works well with three). Brilliant games, easy to learn but with great depth.


I was going to suggest Maria as well. A brain burner designed for three.

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Die Macher (for 3 is not intense enough)

I liked Die Macher with three the one time I played it. You have to pay a lot more attention to what the other people are doing. More opportunities to make a sub-optimal play that hurts the others guys.

 
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Neuland is a very heavy (Read; Brain Burner) excellent three player game. Where it comes up short is that it should only take two hours to play.

I guess you could play it twice.
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Without having played every game listed in this thread, I might chance a suggestion that Mecanisburgo and including the two expansions is a very heavy game. Complex, but not necessarily complicated in game play terms.

I just recently picked up Vanished Planet based on the recommendation that it is a heavy (maybe deep might be a better adjective) game.
 
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It fits your description perfectly! And yes, it's a war game.. with an animal theme on it.
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