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I tried to scrutinise several reviews, but cannot find (or correctly analyse) the detailled answer.

Does The Brink of War (3rd expansion) contain enough new cards to expand the base game other than new Goals (expanding the 1st expansion Gathering Storm).

Do the new Phase Powers blend in nicely with only the base game mechanics?

I know The brink of War offers the new mechanic "Prestige", but this question concerns expanding only the base game mechanics with new cards for added variability.

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Again, what you mean by "enough" is not clear.

Also, unlike Rebel Vs Imperium, The Brink of War requires using all previous expansions.
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I really wouldn't suggest playing the base game with TBoW only. It would tremendously imbalance everything.
 
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entranced wrote:
Again, what you mean by "enough" is not clear.
Let's pretend I'm one of those strange geeks that crave for every expansion released. Fortunately, one rarely meets these 'collectors' here on BGG.

Unfortunately, real life often interferes with the playing time available in a way that working people with children only manage to explore the base game.

So, if I have the still nicely shrinkwrapped expansion boxes on my collector's (dust) shelf, or if I'm contemplating to purchase the expansions, are there game components inside those boxes that are playable with only the base game rules and mechanics so that the new mechanics can be left in the box waiting for an era with more available playing hours.


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I really wouldn't suggest playing the base game with TBoW only. It would tremendously imbalance everything.
A tremendously imbalancing effect is a good argument against using/purchasing the (basic) expansion components.


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Enough cards to expand only the base game?
I know this all sounds very weird, but I know I'm not the only quirky player/collector here on the Geek. Thanks for your patience. whistle

 
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Rebel Vs Imperium would be the answer to your question then. You can leave the goals in the box, put all the cards in with the base game, and play with takeovers off.

Brink of War, you cannot.
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Fluffy James wrote:
Does The Brink of War (3rd expansion) contain enough new cards to expand the base game ... I know The brink of War offers the new mechanic "Prestige", but this question concerns expanding only the base game mechanics with new cards for added variability.

Not so much that Brink of War "offers" the Prestige mechanic, more that the expansion is entirely built around the Prestige mechanic, and it's not an optional rule!

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But if you want to see for yourself, take a look at this page (all the cards in BoW) and count how many don't have a pink prestige dot somewhere on them.
http://rftgpics.fortunecity.com/bow.html
Not counting the corrected Galactic Federation, I make it 11 cards out of 40. In my view, and considering the rules as written, that's not "enough" cards.

I agree with Entranced - if you're only playing Base Game rules, go as far as Rebel vs Imperium. But once you're used to those, I cannot recommend Brink of War enough for the full Race experience!
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Fluffy James wrote:
Does The Brink of War (3rd expansion) contain enough new cards to expand the base game [and] do the new Phase Powers blend in nicely with only the base game mechanics?

No. Brink of War requires the prestige mechanic introduced in this expansion.

Either the first expansion (without goals) or the second expansion (without takeovers) can be used in this manner, but not the third expansion.
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Tom Lehmann wrote:
Either the first expansion (without goals) or the second expansion (without takeovers) can be be used in this manner, but not the third expansion.


Thanks Tom and other thread participants for the clear answers!


I think I'm going to buy the 2nd and 3rd expansion anyway ... introducing only Prestige (and not Takeovers since these aren't welcomed enthousiastically in many comments) should be doable. Besides you can't keep a gamer/collector away from those shiny new cards ... shake

 
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Fluffy James wrote:
I think I'm going to buy the 2nd and 3rd expansion anyway

Just to be sure it's clear:

Base = OK
Base + TGS = OK
Base + RvI = OK
Base + BoW = not OK
Base + TGS + RvI = OK
Base + RvI + BoW = not OK
Base + TGS + RvI + BoW = OK
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entranced wrote:
Fluffy James wrote:
I think I'm going to buy the 2nd and 3rd expansion anyway

Just to be sure it's clear:

Base = OK
Base + TGS = OK
Base + RvI = OK
Base + BoW = not OK
Base + TGS + RvI = OK
Base + RvI + BoW = not OK
Base + TGS + RvI + BoW = OK


FYI
I first noticed these on one of the PBF threads and been using them ever since, but, for yellow, green, red, and blue, you can use these style tags instead to get color in. I've found them much easier to work with than the square brackets and "COLOR" keywords (click QuickQuote to actually see the tags).....


RED
Not the correct IMPERIUM Faction.

GREEN
Feline Uplift Race

YELLOW (although some end up doing it the hard way like this instead since this one is much easier to see and read.)
Alien Orb expansion
Alien Orb expansion

BLUE
Made Up NOVELTY World.
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ackmondual wrote:
for yellow, green, red, and blue, you can use these style tags instead to get color in. I've found them much easier to work with than the square brackets and "COLOR" keywords (click QuickQuote to actually see the tags).....

Had no idea such tags existed, thanks!
 
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ackmondual wrote:
for yellow, green, red, and blue, you can use these style tags instead to get color in. I've found them much easier to work with than the square brackets and "COLOR" keywords (click QuickQuote to actually see the tags).....

Nifty!

Does it only work for those 4 colors or are there more?
 
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ackmondual wrote:

FYI
I first noticed these on one of the PBF threads and been using them ever since, but, for yellow, green, red, and blue, you can use these style tags instead to get color in. I've found them much easier to work with than the square brackets and "COLOR" keywords (click QuickQuote to actually see the tags).....


RED
Not the correct IMPERIUM Faction.

GREEN
Feline Uplift Race

YELLOW (although some end up doing it the hard way like this instead since this one is much easier to see and read.)
Alien Orb expansion
Alien Orb expansion

BLUE
Made Up NOVELTY World.


You should add this tip to one of those Tricks of the Geek lists:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/34918/tricks-of-the-ge...
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/50373/more-tricks-of-t...

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kusinohki wrote:
ackmondual wrote:
for yellow, green, red, and blue, you can use these style tags instead to get color in. I've found them much easier to work with than the square brackets and "COLOR" keywords (click QuickQuote to actually see the tags).....

Nifty!

Does it only work for those 4 colors or are there more?
Sadly, it only works for those colors. Well, if it does work for more colors, then they certainly don't work with just a single letter. They may require multi-character labels.

For one of the PBF games, they're trying to see if one of the admins can implement purple as well, since that's a color that's used rather often ('p' I believe will be the tag? Who uses pink anyways?). For us, we don't really need it, but we could also use purple for IMPERIUM, and light brown for TERRAFORMING would be nice
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