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I wasn't able to find a post regarding this so if this has been asked previously I apologize.
So the other night we came a cross a situation on a two player game where I had a used a timechine and my gf used a "hitch a ride" card on her turn and changed the timeline. On my turn I used a "hitch a ride" to switch the event back to its original position. She claimed that wasn't allowed, but according to the card it says I can use it if the previous player changed the timeline.
I can see where she is coming from, I can't Hitch a ride since it was my ride to begin with, but according to the card wording I would say it is completely legal.
Thouhts?
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YaVerOt YaVerOt
United States
Arvada
Colorado
Armchair warriors often fail, and we've been poisoned by these fairy tales.
Aoi Aoi toki ga toke dasheta.
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I can see the logic of not being able to hitch a ride on your own travel... no matter how many other players hitched a ride between to allow that to happen.
But that isn't in the rules. So you hitching a ride to change back her change was completely legit.
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Agreed. Hitch a Ride can be played "if the previous player changed the timeline." It doesn't matter how they changed it.
To explain this action logically, think of Back to the Future Part 2. Old Biff "borrowed" the Delorean to give his 1955 self Gray's Sports Almanac, then returned the time car to the exact place and time he had left it. I believe that's the concept the card "Hitch a Ride" is based on. In this scenario, you could go borrow the car after Old Biff returns it, and hitch a ride from his hitching a ride.
Of course, one thing always bothered me about that scene. Old Biff giving Young Biff the Almanac caused a drastic change to Hill Valley 1985, but it didn't seem to affect Hill Valley 2015, at least not in any way we could see. Perhaps Biff's influence didn't stretch as far as the Hilldale subdivision. Or perhaps after the Almanac's information ran out in the year 2000, the money ran out as well. I can't see Biff being very clever with his finances, and the way he was spending money, it'd probably run out pretty quickly after his income source dried up.
Oh well, food for though either way.
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B. T.
United States
Tennessee
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Actually, there's a deleted scene in BTTF2, when old Biff returns from 1955 with the DeLorean, he breaks his cane and starts to walk off. The cut scene is then Biff, clutching his chest. He stumbles and falls behind a dumpster and starts to fade from existence while Marty and Doc make it back to the time-car and prepare to return to 1985. It was deleted, according to the commentary, because it might have been confusing to viewers. The idea being, old Biff didn't make it to 2015 in his altered timeline and had created a ripple and that it was slowly catching up to 2015.
As with Marty's photo of his family in the first movie, when he altered his parent's first meeting in 1955 it slowly changed time to nearly delete Marty during the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance, but it took a week. So too, in BTTF 2, after old Biff had given himself the Almanac, that Biff's timeline was erasing and if Marty and Doc had stayed, so would have the rest of 2015. Instead, they got in the DeLorean and went back to '85 to an already changed timeline... Though, the broken top of Biff's cane really should have disappeared too - and well, if you over think about it: Since Biff won't survive to 2015 to go back to 1955 to give the almanac to himself, the whole thing becomes a big paradox. Let alone Doc not building the time machine to being with in the new timeline... I guess if Doc and Marty had decided to hang out in alternate '85 for a week or so, the universe would have ended - but probably would have been a far less interesting movie.
While were on the subject, in BTTF3, Doc's tombstone at the Old Delgado mine. Okay, so Marty changes it to say 'Eastwood' and I'll give that a 'pass', as maybe Marty would have though, "That's cool Clint Eastwood's tombstone.". But when Marty knocks out Bufford at the end of the gunfight, and he falls and breaks the tombstone - the tombstone in the photo, Marty took in '55 is erased ... well, why would Marty have taken a photo of the ground then, since the stone won't 'now' exist in '55?
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