Reaper Steve
United States
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I got MH today. My first order of business was to shuffle in the injury and madness cards. When doing so, I noticed that they are just slightly smaller than the ones from DH. The size is off just enough that they function like a magician's stripper deck. When shuffling, they stay grouped together. I wish I could overlook it, but it pretty much prevents proper randomization.
Anyone else have this problem? I assume it carries over for all the small-sized cards (I haven't looked at the larger cards, yet.)
What can I do about it? If it is a wide-spread problem, I don't know if FFG has any proper replacements (assuming the whole print run has the problem.) Sure, I could sleeve them, but it would be a huge expense to sleeve all the decks of small cards from all my expansions to overcome one set's manufacturing defect.
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No idea as I never compared them.
Why not? Because it doesn't matter as they get picked out of my foamcore cardholder - which I assume every Arkham player who has made it to Miskatonic has built. It's like a right of passage!
How the hell do you deal with your mythos stack without one?
My advice? Forget asking for replacements and start building a cardholder. The size difference wont matter then.
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Reaper Steve
United States
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Mr Skeletor wrote: No idea as I never compared them.
Why not? Because it doesn't matter as they get picked out of my foamcore cardholder - which I assume every Arkham player who has made it to Miskatonic has built. It's like a right of passage!
How the hell do you deal with your mythos stack without one?
Actually, I don't have everything yet. Just DH, CotDP(r), KiY, and now MH. I'll probably get the rest by the end of the year. For the time being, I'm using business card holders.
Can you direct me to some cardholder plans? I'm sure I could make something from scratch, but with all the awesome projects I've seen on here, someone's probably already drwn up something sweet. No reason to reinvent the wheel!
And even with a cardholder, they have to be shuffled at some point.
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Tibs
United States
Baltimore
Maryland
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I use a "shuffling" method that doesn't clump the cards.
1. First [...] do an Overhand Shuffle or a Hindu Shuffle. With the bigger decks (200+ Mythos cards) I just sling clumps alternating from the top and bottom of the deck, to form a new deck.
2. Then, do a Pile Shuffle. The number of piles should be the square root of the total number of cards in the deck (or as close to it as possible). I actually cut the deck in half and Pile Shuffle the bottom half, then the top half. Plus, restacking the dealt piles in no particular systematic order certainly helps. But with the Injury and Madness cards, this means six decks.
Voila! Adequate randomness, little card wear. It won't solve the problem of being able to see the positions of the MH cards, but in time they'll at least look the same color as the rest of the deck.
The only downside is the time element. Even if you already know how many piles to make, it takes a bit of time (and with the mythos and gate decks, space) to get the decks set up. But it preserves your cards and gives you a random game without worry.
The best solution, if you're so inclined, is to sleeve them. But I know that's not for everyone.
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Oh no, not another quality production problem.
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Reaper Steve wrote:
Can you direct me to some cardholder plans? I'm sure I could make something from scratch, but with all the awesome projects I've seen on here, someone's probably already drwn up something sweet. No reason to reinvent the wheel!
And even with a cardholder, they have to be shuffled at some point.
I built mine on night after work, so mine is far from an awesome project 
Does the job though.
Big cards should all fit (lying down) in the DH box. Create a foamcore border around the perimiter of the box, then put one long strip in the middle, and two long interlocking strips the other way. Effectivly making 6 rectangles that look like this in ASCII
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I I I
I I I
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I I I
I I I
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I I I
I I I
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Glue all that together and thats about it. Your cards will just fit lying on their long axis. Draw a card from the front and discard it to the back.
You'll want to make some more foamcore dividers to seperate the card types, but if you make these a 'tight' fit into the above frame you wont need to glue them in, which allows you to change things.
For smaller cards I created a similar thing, except it includes a base and doesn't use the box for support (don't take up a whole box worth of room) so you can take that one out of the box. Also those cards stand up longways.
EDIT: My ASCII drawing didn't work because it's merging my spaces together. Fuck you HTML.
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Simply put, yes, the cards are smaller. Whether or not it's a problem is up to you.
Miskatonic Horror did not release too many small cards. The problem essentially affects the madness, injury and skill decks, in a not-insignificant way. I suppose it could affect the cult encounter deck, if it were used often enough to cause a gripe. The card sizes line up with that of the Revised Curse of the Dark Pharoah, so the extra exhibit items and exhibit encounters are fine.
For me, who cannot sleeve all of the cards (girlfriend hates them) and has a storage solution he's happy with (and too lazy to do anything different), another solution is in order: arduous shuffling. I just shuffle the decks well, with an eye towards breaking up the clumps of similarly sized cards. It takes time, but it works for me.
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Reaper Steve
United States
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Frank: Thanks for the tip. I'll look into doing something like that.
Kenneth: yeah, I'm trying not to let it be a problem. After comparing MH cards for the other decks with the cards I have from other sets (DH, KiY, CotDP(r)), I'm thinking that it's my DH madness and injury cards that are too big in relation to everything else (not the MH cards being too small.) All the other cards seem fine. But man, the injury and madness cards from MH do not mesh with those from DH! I'm thinking of sleeving just those two decks and calling it good.
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Brine
United States
Portland
Oregon
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My Dunwich small cards were a different size, so it's not exclusive to MH.
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Disgustipater wrote: My Dunwich small cards were a different size, so it's not exclusive to MH.
Did you pick up Dunwich recently? Perhaps they changed the size of their cards relatively recently, and that's the cause of the problem.
If so, a simple (expensive) solution for the injury and madness decks would be to go buy a Dunwich reprint...
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Brine
United States
Portland
Oregon
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Flamethrower49 wrote: Did you pick up Dunwich recently? Perhaps they changed the size of their cards relatively recently, and that's the cause of the problem.
No, sorry. It was about 2 years ago.
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Brian Mc Cabe
United States
Arizona
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http://www.psychicscience.org/random.aspx
All shuffling problems disappear
Brian
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Tibs
United States
Baltimore
Maryland
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UGH. If you're going to use one, at least use one that isn't swimming in pseudo-science bullcrap:
http://www.random.org/
But either way, counting out cards with a random number generator is tedious as hell.
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I noticed the same, but fortunately I use sleeves so I can't see the difference now...
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