Maciek U
United States
Cromwell
Connecticut
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and the sentence says, that during scoring your of individual cards at the end of the round "For each different artist with Masterpiece Cards displayed in front of the player, he may play one additional card from his hand, add it to his Masterpiece Cards, and score it."
What does that mean??
If you have 5 different colored cards, meaning at least one of each of the artist, you get to choose a card from your hand and just add it to all the cards laying before you to score it as additional card?
Or is there some kind of other explanation?
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United States
Danbury
Connecticut
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It means that however many colors of cards you have in front of you (ie. however many artists you've played), you can play that many extra cards (of any colors, including multiple of the same color) after you know what the scoring's going to be. It rewards diversification, which is generally bad in this game.
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CAG
United States
Georgia
Now I can add text to my avatar? Sweet! Now how do I do it?
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cannoneer wrote: It means that however many colors of cards you have in front of you (ie. however many artists you've played), you can play that many extra cards (of any colors, including multiple of the same color) after you know what the scoring's going to be. It rewards diversification, which is generally bad in this game.
Yes, this is correct. I missed it my first game and thought it was a pretty strange rule, but it works well. One issue, however, is that a player can more quickly run out of cards if they use it too much. But you do have the correct interpretation of it.
The rule is also in Modern Art: The Card Game.
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Maciek U
United States
Cromwell
Connecticut
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cannoneer wrote: It means that however many colors of cards you have in front of you (ie. however many artists you've played), you can play that many extra cards (of any colors, including multiple of the same color) after you know what the scoring's going to be. It rewards diversification, which is generally bad in this game.
So wait a minute....
Let's say I have 2 yellow, 1 brown and 1 orange in front of me. You're saying at the scoring round I can add 3 cards of any color to my display??
Or do I add 4 (2+1+1) cards to the display??
According to the rules, I can only add ONE card to my display.
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United States
Danbury
Connecticut
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greengow wrote:
According to the rules, I can only add ONE card to my display.
No. "For Each different artist...." means you can add one card...for each different artist. The card you add does not have to correspond to any particular artist.
In your scenario, you can add 3 cards (of any artist(s)), because you have three different artists (yellow, brown, orange).
Note that these cards you add are AFTER the values have been determined for the artists - you do not change the artists' payouts based on any cards that anyone adds in this manner.
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Joe Casadonte
United States
King of Prussia
Pennsylvania
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cannoneer wrote: It means that however many colors of cards you have in front of you (ie. however many artists you've played), you can play that many extra cards (of any colors, including multiple of the same color)
I always took the sentence to mean that you could play one of each of those colors, not that many cards of any color. I think that's how Keith taught us, too.
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Steve Duff
Canada
Ottawa
Ontario
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Joe Casadonte wrote: I always took the sentence to mean that you could play one of each of those colors, not that many cards of any color.
Agreed, that's what it says. For each different artist, play one additional card.
I have yellow, brown, and orange on the table. I can add one yellow, one brown, and one orange if I have them.
I can't add 2 browns, because that's not one additional card, that's two. If I don't have any orange, I lose out, I don't get to add extra yellows instead.
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Dan Blum
United States
Wilmington
Massachusetts
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Joe Casadonte wrote: cannoneer wrote: It means that however many colors of cards you have in front of you (ie. however many artists you've played), you can play that many extra cards (of any colors, including multiple of the same color) I always took the sentence to mean that you could play one of each of those colors, not that many cards of any color. I think that's how Keith taught us, too.
That's what I thought, but it was clarified in a thread (some time ago) that you can in fact play any N cards. I will see if I can find the thread.
ETA: In this thread it is stated that Gryphon said that you can play any N cards.
(Later in the thread it says that the iOS version does it the other way, but I saw a later thread which says the opposite, so that might have been changed.)
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Maciek U
United States
Cromwell
Connecticut
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cannoneer wrote: greengow wrote:
According to the rules, I can only add ONE card to my display.
No. "For Each different artist...." means you can add one card...for each different artist. The card you add does not have to correspond to any particular artist. In your scenario, you can add 3 cards (of any artist(s)), because you have three different artists (yellow, brown, orange). Note that these cards you add are AFTER the values have been determined for the artists - you do not change the artists' payouts based on any cards that anyone adds in this manner.
Wow  That puts a whole new paint job on things!! Thanks for clarifying, I'd be playing this all wrong!
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ackmondual
United States
Virginia
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cannoneer wrote: It means that however many colors of cards you have in front of you (ie. however many artists you've played), you can play that many extra cards (of any colors, including multiple of the same color) after you know what the scoring's going to be. It rewards diversification, which is generally bad in this game. This was the way I teach it to others......
UnknownParkerBrother wrote: Joe Casadonte wrote: I always took the sentence to mean that you could play one of each of those colors, not that many cards of any color. Agreed, that's what it says. For each different artist, play one additional card. I have yellow, brown, and orange on the table. I can add one yellow, one brown, and one orange if I have them. I can't add 2 browns, because that's not one additional card, that's two. If I don't have any orange, I lose out, I don't get to add extra yellows instead.
.... However, I just tried the iOS version, and it turns out I was playing it wrong, as THIS was the way it was meant to be.
Hmm, certainly an eye opener.
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United States
Danbury
Connecticut
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ackmondual wrote: cannoneer wrote: It means that however many colors of cards you have in front of you (ie. however many artists you've played), you can play that many extra cards (of any colors, including multiple of the same color) after you know what the scoring's going to be. It rewards diversification, which is generally bad in this game. This was the way I teach it to others...... UnknownParkerBrother wrote: Joe Casadonte wrote: I always took the sentence to mean that you could play one of each of those colors, not that many cards of any color. Agreed, that's what it says. For each different artist, play one additional card. I have yellow, brown, and orange on the table. I can add one yellow, one brown, and one orange if I have them. I can't add 2 browns, because that's not one additional card, that's two. If I don't have any orange, I lose out, I don't get to add extra yellows instead. .... However, I just tried the iOS version, and it turns out I was playing it wrong, as THIS was the way it was meant to be. Hmm, certainly an eye opener.
iOS is wrong then, at least according to a rational reading of the rules themselves. It's possible the rules were just badly-worded; in that case an official clarification from Gryphon should clear it up. But if you read the rules as written, iOS is wrong. I'll ask Gryphon on Twitter.
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Steve Duff
Canada
Ottawa
Ontario
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cannoneer wrote: iOS is wrong then, at least according to a rational reading of the rules themselves. It's possible the rules were just badly-worded; in that case an official clarification from Gryphon should clear it up. But if you read the rules as written, iOS is wrong. I'll ask Gryphon on Twitter.
I'll take issue with that word "rational".  The rules as written state exactly what the iOS version plays:
"For each different artist with Masterpiece Cards displayed in front of the player,"
"he may play one additional card from his hand, add it to his Masterpiece Cards, and score it."
This is a textbook computer for loop:
For each artist begin
add 1 card to this artist
score this artist
next artist
It's undoubtedly why the iOS version ended up the way it did, any programmer reading those rules would come up with the same interpretation. Joe, the other person thinking the same way as I did, has a perl programming microbadge, I note.
It may be your reading is correct, but the alternate reading is no less rational. 
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Jeffrey Nolin
Japan
Nakamachi, Hiroshima
Hiroshima-ken
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This is one of my favorite iOS games, so I play it a lot. The iOS rules implementation is the deciding factor for me, as any other rules interpretation would just make the gameplay so odd. Being able to play more than one extra card per suit in that suit would take away so much of the dynamic tension and leave you with fewer tough decisions.
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