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Subject: When dealing Wonder cards... rss

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Jonathan Ramundi
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...the rules seem to suggest that the dealt cards indicate what side of the Wonder board to use as well as the Wonder itself. Is this true?

In other words:

1) Are sides random or chosen? (I know you could play it how you want but what's the "standard" rule?)

2) If random, how do you guys typically decide this?

I was thinking I'd let the players, before looking at the card, of course, rotate it to the valid position of their choice. The "right" (top) side denotes the side to be used.

Thanks.
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Tom Howard
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Manual, pg. 3 wrote:

Shuffle the 7 Wonder cards, face down, and hand one to each player. The
card and its facing determine the Wonders board given to each player as well as the side to be used during the game.


So, yeah, officially speaking, you deal out the cards at random. We then each spin our card around a bit before turning it over. The proper facing on the front of the card determines which wonder and which side to use.
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I believe the "standard" rule is you pick the card, rotate it whilst it is still covered, and the side facing the right side up when you uncover it is the side of the Wonder board you use.

We typically do it that way too in our games.
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*thumbs up*

What I thought. Thanks, gents.
 
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Since I own the game, in my groups, I just deal them out, in front of the player. Whatever side is right-side-up, to them, is the side they use. Of course, use any method you want.
 
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We generally deal out the cards randomly however since the side A wonders are usually weaker and less interesting than the side Bs we allow the player to choose which side they want to play (almost always B).
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From our side, as we are not regular players, we always start playing with the A sides (rules tips). That said, we see no reason why not deciding all together what side will be played the next game. So that everyone will play the same complexity / powergame capacity.
 
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allstar64 wrote:
We generally deal out the cards randomly however since the side A wonders are usually weaker and less interesting than the side Bs we allow the player to choose which side they want to play (almost always B).
That's interesting... So is that to say that players who were dealt side 'A' will be at a disadvantage to those dealt side 'B'.

What is the general consensus on this?
 
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bigloo33 wrote:
Since I own the game, in my groups, I just deal them out, in front of the player. Whatever side is right-side-up, to them, is the side they use. Of course, use any method you want.


Same. Only exception is when somebody play it for the first time, they can choose.
 
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Geoff King
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I guess I never noticed, or forgot, the card-facing part of dealing out wonders.
We always decide beforehand if we're playing A-side (usually if there's new players) or B-side. Everybody plays the same side.
 
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Shayne Gray
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We do the deal and facing thing as well.
 
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I don't own a copy, so I can't look at the rules, but aren't the B sides more powerful? Why would you play a game where not everyone was on the same side?
 
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I don't have the rules in front of me, but I recall when reading them that it specifically said that side "A" was easier for new players to learn, but both "A" and "B" sides were equally balanced. Having only played once, I'll leave it to others to support/refute that claim with their own experiences.

Edit: The top of page 9 of the rules states "The B sides of the Wonders are slightly more complex. Nevertheless, both sides remain balanced and can be used in the same game."
Rules can be found here: http://www.rprod.com/files/7W_RULES_EN_COLOR_LIGHT.pdf
 
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From my experience the rules are lying and horribly so.

Rhodes Side B is much stronger than side A.

Alexandria, Ephesus, and Halicanarsus are also several times stronger on their B sides but because their A sides are terrible against experienced players hence why they are alright to play with new players on.

Babalon and Giza are both playable on side A but I find their side B to be much more interesting and a little stronger.

Olympia is the only wonder where Side B is arguably weaker than side A (and hence I pick side A when I have it usually) though side B is more interesting.

However these are my opinions and there is no agreed upon answer for this.
 
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Leonard Tang
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that's a good question: are the sides unbalanced? if one player chooses A and the rest choose B, will he be in disadvantage??
 
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