Michael Hopcroft
United States
Portland
Oregon
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In my game Friday, neither player shuffled their deck very well. If you read the session report, you will understand what that resulted in.
Right now I have my eight decks each rubber-banded together. Only the France and Britain decks have ever been shuffled. I'd like to find a way to shuffle all eight decks well so that every playing combination will come as a surprise. Small cards are not the easiest things in the world to shuffle and probably wouldn't fit in an automatic shuffling machine of the sort some Magic players use. I am open to any suggestions people might have on ways to effectively randomize the decks.
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Nathan
Australia
Invergowrie
NSW
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Well, when I was younger and couldn't shuffle, I'd spread all the cards out in a face down pile than randomly put them together. You could do something similar, have a 'bowl' for your deck, and randomly pull out a card from the face down 'mess'.
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Aron Clark
United States
Los Gatos
California
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Nothing fancy is needed here, just sort a deck into 7 or 8 random piles and then pile those together in one deck. There are some tuck box templates here on BGG for Manoeuvre as well.
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Jacob Cassens
United States
Las Vegas
Nevada
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I use little boxes made using templates and card stock paper, they work wonders.
Cheers,
Jacovis
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The usual recommendation is put em in the box lid face down and shake the box lid back and forth to "shuffle" them.
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Jeff Horger
United States
Columbus
Ohio
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I admit that I have some shuffling skill but even for me, when the packs were open, it felt like shuffling a brick for a while until they loosened up. I prefer the ten-pile sort followed by box top shuffling before the game.
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Michael Hopcroft
United States
Portland
Oregon
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I'm not a bad shuffler -- if you play the Statis Pro line of sportsgames you learn the value of a good shuffle -- but these cards are small enough and hard enough (got to admit GMT used high quality cardstock, for which they deserve due credit) that shuffling them properly the first few times is a chore.
By the way, I committed the heresy of removing the very nice insert from the box. This is because I needed room for the craft box I bought, to use to store the counters and dice. The benefit is that the counters are sorted properly by nationality and I won't have to search for a particular nation's units. The downside is that the cards have a lot more room than they need to jostle around.
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Jacob Cassens
United States
Las Vegas
Nevada
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Jeff Horger wrote: I admit that I have some shuffling skill but even for me, when the packs were open, it felt like shuffling a brick for a while until they loosened up. I prefer the ten-pile sort followed by box top shuffling before the game.
I sleeved my cards using one of FFG's smaller sleeves. I had to trim the tops off, but it was worth it. Infinitely easier to shuffle, and I just like sleeving my cards 
Cheers,
Jacovis
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Michael Hopcroft
United States
Portland
Oregon
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Jacovis wrote: Jeff Horger wrote: I admit that I have some shuffling skill but even for me, when the packs were open, it felt like shuffling a brick for a while until they loosened up. I prefer the ten-pile sort followed by box top shuffling before the game. I sleeved my cards using one of FFG's smaller sleeves. I had to trim the tops off, but it was worth it. Infinitely easier to shuffle, and I just like sleeving my cards
Between the eight decks Manoeuvre has something on the order of 480 cards. The expansion will add 240 more. That's a lot of sleeves! How much do those things cost?
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Michael Hopcroft
United States
Portland
Oregon
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And I have the same question about the shuffle that I did before, more so because we're talking about a tournament setting where everything has to be absolutely fair. (I owe the players willing to show up at 9:00 on a Friday morning no less!) I'm looking into shuffling devices but my fear is that the smaller cards will get jammed in the works, ruining cards and shuffling device alike.
Is this something I really have to be concerned about, or should I go ahead and buy a shuffler?
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Michael Hopcroft
United States
Portland
Oregon
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One other problem I will have is keeping the decks together. Rubber bands, my usual and probably inadequate choice for holding decks together, keep breaking on me. I've heard good things here about Amazing Tape but I don't know if that's for me (or how I would use it). Are there other options?
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