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Subject: Generals recruiting 'with' brigades rss

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Chris Stimpson
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Caught out by a preposition

1) From Rule 7.2.3:

"Generals recruited during the Recruitment Phase must be placed with friendly brigades...(my emphasis). They can take brigades from a Local Notable in the same area and/or take uncontrolled brigades from the map to achieve this."

So my confusion hinges on the use of with. Does it mean:

a) the general must be placed on the map in an area already containing a friendly brigade, or

b) the general can be placed on the map at the same time as a newly-recruited brigade in the same area?


2) The same question applies to Rule 7.3, for Grandee/A&S recruiting (particularly for grandee recruiting, since it's more dependent on certain types of general actually being available).


NB: I think placing a general via operations card is a little clearer; you shouldn't be able to recruit a brigade AND a general AND activate the army for movement with a single card. The brigade, I believe, has to already be there for the general to parachute onto and move with.
 
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I believe (a) and (b) are both valid (but (a) only if the brigades are unled or with a local notable). Same thing applies in (1) recruitment phase and (2) card-based recruitment.

When a general is placed via Ops, there is no brigade recruitment of course.
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Charles Vasey
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Both is the answer, why would it only be one?

"I think placing a general via operations card is a little clearer; you shouldn't be able to recruit a brigade AND a general AND activate the army for movement with a single card. The brigade, I believe, has to already be there for the general to parachute onto and move with."

Granted I only wrote the thing and so have long ago forgotten everything, but if you recruit with an Ops card surely you cannot move with it as well?

"6.1 An Operations Strategy Card allows a player to undertake one of the following things:"

"1. Bring Recruits into play (7.0). The procedures used by the Royalist and Parliament players are different. Only one such card can be played each Turn by each player."

is one choice.

"4. Activate for movement (9.0) a General whose Strategy Rating is less than or equal to the number printed on the Operations Strategy Card (but see 6.2 below). This General can be brought onto the map from the Reinforcements Box (8.1)"

is another, so there does not seem much doubt you cannot do your extended AND clauses in one card.


 
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Grand'merci, my lord. Yes, I should have had a c) option: both of the above.

But I'm glad that turned out to be the answer. Many thanks.

PS: Here's a first (maybe...) Woken up from a sound sleep by UKC. Finished a solitaire game a couple of nights ago with the man of blood taking the ninth area in the midlands on the last card of the game, and with the Godly only having 6 economic areas they went down to defeat.

4am - or thereabouts - suddenly woke up with the thought ringing in my head: "Poltroon! You forgot to check the power base on the last turn!" And since the king had lost Wales, it was critical. A couple of hours later, unfolding the map and trying to remember who had which areas was torture. (Still the king, I think, but only because he still had Newark and Gainsborough).

At least I wasn't dreaming about stripping the garrisons......
 
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Steady lad!
 
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