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Subject: Mithril Coat vs We Shall Get It rss

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Ralf Schemmann
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If both Mithril Coat and We Shall Get it are on the table, who decides first whether to redraw the hunt tile?
 
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No rule covers this but I would say that the active player (the one who used an Action die to initiate the action that resulted in the tile draw).

EDIT: See Roberto's answer!
 
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At this moment, in this "unofficial" cross-over between 2nd edition rules and BOTTA rules, I'd say that We Shall Get It must be used first.

Using Mithril Coat happens during step 1 of the Hunt Sequence, when the Hunt tile to deal with has already been determined.

I would say that a better wording of "We Shall Get It", in a future 2nd edtion version of the card, should say that it must be used "before resolving the Hunt" or something in that direction.
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And how would you rule under 1st edition rules? The same way?

As the cards currently read, both would allow a second re-draw after the first. E.g. the FP decide to re-draw a hunt tile with the Mithril Coat and the Shadow doesn't like the new tile, so he uses We Shall Get it to draw yet another tile, which counts.

This would apply even if the Shadow had officially decided not to use WSGI after the original tile, as a new tile had been drawn (the card's condition). It would work the same way vice versa.

The original situation when both players won't commit to using a card first is pretty theoretical - I can't really imagine a situation where this would be the case IF they still can use their card after the other player's redraw.
 
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As far as I remember from the original testing one player could use his card to redraw and then the other player could use his card to re-draw the second tile drawn.

The BIG question is who should decide to use his card first on the first tile drawn...
 
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I would still use the ruling based on the 2nd edition Hunt rules, given that they are essentially a way to clarify the interactions between the Hunt effects.
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