Mark Roth
United States
Garnet Valley
Pennsylvania
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Since we don't seem to have heard a lot about forthcoming expansions (and there is even a sense that there may be none) is anyone working on possible variants to allow playing Austrians, Russians, Prussians or other minor nationalities with figures that the player himself would provide? Please forgive me if this has been addressed elsewhere in the forum -- if it has been, I've evidently overlooked it.
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Hi!
I'm painting Austrians and started designing some scenarios. However, it is a long process. It should be ready somewhere this spring.
Are you doing something on your side?
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Daniel J.
United Kingdom
Cambridge
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roth wrote: Since we don't seem to have heard a lot about forthcoming expansions (and there is even a sense that there may be none)
The game seems to far to have been orphaned when Nexus went under.
It's in an awkward position because Italeri (who make the figures used in the game) was the parent company of Nexus, and it seems to have been Italeri who shut Nexus down for not being as profitable as they wished.
Ares Games, which picked up a lot of the Nexus titles (Wings of War, War of the Ring) hasn't mentioned anything about BoN.
A great pity, as this game was to me a 'diamond in the rough' or an 'unfinished mastepiece'. It needed a little bit of work (an FAQ, rules clarifications, English rulebook corrections, LOS rule correction) but had the potential to grow into an entire Napoleonics system.
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Daniel J.
United Kingdom
Cambridge
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p.s. FFG has dropped it from their website, probably because no new copies will be printed. (Sorry, just checked and this is wrong)
It wasn't in their Black Friday sale (unlike Age of Conan, which was slashed to $25) so I'm guessing they've run out of copies.
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geltrude bellissima
Italy
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Hi all,
I am also thinking of creating cards and other Prussian miniatures , will follow an Italeri miniature list that I found interesting and compatible
with the fantastic game.
Have you any suggest on other compatible miniature?
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beresford dickens
United Kingdom
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One problem you would have is that the card deck is specifically designed for British and French nationalities.
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beresford wrote: ... the card deck is specifically designed for British and French nationalities.
True. This is why it is a long developing process: in addition of the (painted) figs and the scenarios, I must design some new terrain features as well as new Austrian cards. Also British specified actions or reactions have to be adapted. An Austrian action/reaction list aside will do the job.
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Cutthroat Cardboard (Barry)
Scotland
Edinburgh
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Meta Baston wrote: beresford wrote: ... the card deck is specifically designed for British and French nationalities. True. This is why it is a long developing process: in addition of the (painted) figs and the scenarios, I must design some new terrain features as well as new Austrian cards. Also British specified actions or reactions have to be adapted. An Austrian action/reaction list aside will do the job.
I'd love to see BoN developed to pick up other nationalities but my gut feeling is that if this is not going to be taken forward by a publisher that it would have to be developed in a simpler form than the original game.
It is a mammoth task to produce decent quality cards for all of the units that were involved in the wider conflict. To produce a spreadsheet however with stats for each nations primary troop types during each period of the Napoleonic wars is probably a manageable project.
Similarly production of a unique card deck suitable for every nation is another monster task. Producing sub decks of the existing cards however, with a few additions, modeling each nations capabilities at differing points in the conflict should be possible.
The richness of the current card decks would reduce as would the visual impact of the unit cards. It would however become much easier to write a scenario and set up a game!
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Joseph Dooley
United States
Kingston
Tennessee
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There are enough graphics programs out there to make up some very serviceable "fan produced" card decks. Printed on card stock and placed in sleeves, they can be pretty convincing products for game use.
If there is enough interest, this can become like NetEPIC. NetEPIC emerged when Games Workshop (UK) more or less orphaned the EPIC 40,000 line of sci-fi minis. Fans of the game created a new ruleset that has perpetuated the EPIC genre despite little or no interest from Games Workshop.
I understand the desire to have nicely painted minis. I like the appearance, too. But, you need not even paint the miniatures if you want to preserve their generic nature. The red-blue, us-them, friend-foe color scheme has been a staple of military mapping for a l-o-n-g time.
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Daniel J.
United Kingdom
Cambridge
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anciengamer wrote: There are enough graphics programs out there to make up some very serviceable "fan produced" card decks. Printed on card stock and placed in sleeves, they can be pretty convincing products for game use.
If there is enough interest, this can become like NetEPIC. NetEPIC emerged when Games Workshop (UK) more or less orphaned the EPIC 40,000 line of sci-fi minis. Fans of the game created a new ruleset that has perpetuated the EPIC genre despite little or no interest from Games Workshop.
I understand the desire to have nicely painted minis. I like the appearance, too. But, you need not even paint the miniatures if you want to preserve their generic nature. The red-blue, us-them, friend-foe color scheme has been a staple of military mapping for a l-o-n-g time.
I'd love to see balanced fan-made scenarios, especially larger ones. Waterloo would be excellent.
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Cutthroat Cardboard (Barry)
Scotland
Edinburgh
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anciengamer wrote: There are enough graphics programs out there to make up some very serviceable "fan produced" card decks. Printed on card stock and placed in sleeves, they can be pretty convincing products for game use.
I have no doubt that it can be done and done to a relatively high standard. My doubt is whether any of us have the time and inclination to carry the project through to completion given the scale of the task and the other games vying for our time.
I'd love to know if the original games designers had actually created cards for their own use. If so, and there were no copywrite issues, I'm sure many of us would be willing to pay a reasonable sum through one of the on-line publishing operations to get them?
I think if I was setting out to do new cards that there are two aspects of the game that I'd change.
1. Sharing a deck of cards between nations makes it dificult to expand and causes problems when there are more than two nations on the board. To my mind it would be much better to build card decks for each nation. You could then build the deck in different ways to reflect the changes in their capabilities at a given point in the conflict.
2. The implementation of the special figures seems flawed to me. I'd probably have preferred to see a unit card representing an average value for each unit during each period of the conflict. The special figures could then be used as a means of showing differentiation from this base level. This would reduce the number of unit cards required for any given period.
Looks like one of those tasks I might start but never finish.....
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