Maurits van Esch
Netherlands
Capelle aan den IJssel
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I have planted 1 blue bean, 1 garden bean and 2 coffee beans.
I traded cards and I need to plant them now. I got 3 stink beans and 2 green beans. I want to get rid of the garden bean, because the other 5 cards are out of the game.
Can I harvest the 2 coffee beans, plant nothing, then harvest the garden bean? (All my fiels have only 1 bean so I can harvest a single bean.) Now I have 2 open fields and I plant the 3 stink beans and the 2 green beans.
Is this a legal move? Or do I have to plant one of the fields after harvesting so I can't profit from both fields having only 1 bean.
Thanks
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CAG
United States
Georgia
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Sounds legal to me. In fact, I think I've done this kind of thing before and would consider it a good move. That being said, I don't have the rules in front of me. But they do state that a bean field can be harvested at any time, with the one exception being the one-bean field.
Still, I think this move was legal. You're basically cleaning out both your fields before you plant anything else.
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Wade Nelson
United States
Saint Louis Park
Minnesota
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Sonnie wrote: I have planted 1 blue bean, 1 garden bean and 2 coffee beans.
I traded cards and I need to plant them now. I got 3 stink beans and 2 green beans. I want to get rid of the garden bean, because the other 5 cards are out of the game.
Can I harvest the 2 coffee beans, plant nothing, then harvest the garden bean? (All my fiels have only 1 bean so I can harvest a single bean.) Now I have 2 open fields and I plant the 3 stink beans and the 2 green beans.
Is this a legal move? Or do I have to plant one of the fields after harvesting so I can't profit from both fields having only 1 bean.
Thanks
Field 1: Blue Bean x1
Field 2: Garden Bean x1
Field 3: Coffee Bean x2
Received: 3 Stink and 2 Green
Correct?
You cannot initially harvest the Blue or Green beans because your Coffee Bean field has 2 beans. If you harvest Coffee first, then yes you can harvest your choice of Blue, Garden, both, or none.
You can harvest beans at any time, so what you want to do is a legal move.
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Bernd Keller
Germany
Dietzenbach
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wadenels wrote: Sonnie wrote: I have planted 1 blue bean, 1 garden bean and 2 coffee beans.
I traded cards and I need to plant them now. I got 3 stink beans and 2 green beans. I want to get rid of the garden bean, because the other 5 cards are out of the game.
Can I harvest the 2 coffee beans, plant nothing, then harvest the garden bean? (All my fiels have only 1 bean so I can harvest a single bean.) Now I have 2 open fields and I plant the 3 stink beans and the 2 green beans.
Is this a legal move? Or do I have to plant one of the fields after harvesting so I can't profit from both fields having only 1 bean.
Thanks Field 1: Blue Bean x1 Field 2: Garden Bean x1 Field 3: Coffee Bean x2 Received: 3 Stink and 2 Green Correct? You cannot initially harvest the Blue or Green beans because your Coffee Bean field has 2 beans. If you harvest Coffee first, then yes you can harvest your choice of Blue, Garden, both, or none. You can harvest beans at any time, so what you want to do is a legal move.
Correct. :)
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Dian
United States
Beaverton
Oregon
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In OP's particular example, it is a legal move because he could do the following:
Harvest his coffee field first
Plant one of the bean (stink or green) he just got from trade
Harvest Garden bean
and plant the rest.
However, I need a further clarification.
The rules state, "A player may not sell beans from a bean field with a single card unless all his bean fields have just one card. In this case, he may choose which single card to sell."
So it seems to me, if we have a single field that has 1 bean card and the other field is empty, we may not sell that bean because not all fields have just one card (instead of 1-bean or none).
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Julius Andrikonis
Lithuania
Vilnius
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Yes, English (and also Lithuanian) rules contain such sentence. However in German rules it is written as follows:
Quote: Nur wenn auf keinem der Bohnenfelder eines Spielers mehr als eine Bohnenkarte liegt, darf er eine einzelne Karte verkaufen.
I am not a big expert of German, but I think that this means that one bean can be harvested if none of the fields contain more than one bean card. And because this game originates from Germany, I suppose this is how it is supposed to be played. And it is likely that errors in other languages arise from a single mistranslation in English rules.
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Werner Bär
Germany
Karlsruhe
Baden
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dmk11 wrote: However, I need a further clarification.
The rules state, "A player may not sell beans from a bean field with a single card unless all his bean fields have just one card. In this case, he may choose which single card to sell."
Juliusan wrote: Yes, English (and also Lithuanian) rules contain such sentence. However in German rules it is written as follows: Quote: Nur wenn auf keinem der Bohnenfelder eines Spielers mehr als eine Bohnenkarte liegt, darf er eine einzelne Karte verkaufen. [...] And because this game originates from Germany, I suppose this is how it is supposed to be played. And it is likely that errors in other languages arise from a single mistranslation in English rules.
There's another possibility: The english rules are a translation of the original german rules, and the german rules got updated.
It doesn't matter in most cases, as in the original posters case: You usually can just plant one bean into the empty field before you harvest your single one. It's only a very rare case with 3 bean fields when it really makes a difference: Field 1 contains bean A, field 2 and 3 are empty, and you have two B beans to plant, and nothing else.
Since it doens't matter in most cases, and the original rules were quite confusing, they simplified this case when re-writing the rules for later editions.
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Dian
United States
Beaverton
Oregon
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Werbaer wrote: Since it doens't matter in most cases, and the original rules were quite confusing, they simplified this case when re-writing the rules for later editions.
Hmm.. I've only played 4 times and twice I had a scenario where I would want to harvest a 1-bean field when the other field is empty.
Example:
I have a field with cocoa bean planted (but I know the other 3 cocoa beans are out of play), so I want to get rid of this bean.
I have 2 red beans in my hand.
At the start of my turn, ideally, I want to plant both red beans in my hand. But if I really want to get rid of the cocoa bean, I can only play 1 red bean, then I'm able to "harvest" the cocoa bean legally (with old rule).
With the new rule, I'll be able to harvest the cocoa bean first, then I'm able to plant both red beans from my hand.
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Werner Bär
Germany
Karlsruhe
Baden
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dmk11 wrote: I have a field with cocoa bean planted (but I know the other 3 cocoa beans are out of play), so I want to get rid of this bean.
I have 2 red beans in my hand.
At the start of my turn, ideally, I want to plant both red beans in my hand. But if I really want to get rid of the cocoa bean, I can only play 1 red bean, then I'm able to "harvest" the cocoa bean legally (with old rule).
You can plant one red bean, harvest the cocoa bean, and then plant the other red bean.
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Dian
United States
Beaverton
Oregon
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Ah yes
I guess you're right, the time where it would matter is when you have 3 fields and it's kind of silly to "punish" someone for having 3 fields.
Thanks for the clarifications!
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