Fortifications and melee | Fighting Formations: Grossdeutschland Motorized Infantry Division

A Oliveira

(aro246)

Brazil
Sao Paulo

Here's the situation:

- I have an infantry platoon inside a bunker;
- My adversary advances into my bunker hex with one of his platoons (but stays outside the bunker);
- Right after that, with an advance order, I simultaneously advance out of the hex with the platoon that was inside the bunker AND I advance into the hex with another platoon of mine.

Here is the question:

- The moment I advanced out of the hex with my first platoon, does my adversary's platoon gets to go inside the bunker (and gets the melee bonus when fighting my second platoon in the future)?

Here is a follow-up question:

- If the answer is: neither my second platoon nor my adversary's platoon get inside the bunker for the ensuing melee, when do any of them get into the bunker? Do we need to move or advance again to do that?

Thanks for the help!

Andre

Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:59 am
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Chadwik

(Chad Jensen)

United States
Santa Rosa
California

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.

aro246 wrote:

The moment I advanced out of the hex with my first platoon, does my adversary's platoon gets to go inside the bunker ... ?

No. Rule 45.21 states that a unit can only ever enter a bunker "during setup or if activated for an Advance, Assault or Move". Your opponent is doing none of those; you are.

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when do any of them get into the bunker? Do we need to move or advance again to do that?

See above.

Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:20 pm
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A Oliveira

(aro246)

Brazil
Sao Paulo

Thanks, Chad.

Great game, by the way. In some dimensions, it is a little better than CC. Didn't think that was at all possible.

Andre

Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:01 pm
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Chadwik

(Chad Jensen)

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Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.

You're welcome! Have fun.

Posted Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:49 pm
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Ulrich Rieger

(Lebenslicht)

Germany
Hamburg
Hamburg

Hello Chad,

please allow me to add another question:

Rule 45.31 states that units inside entrenchments (or bunker & pillboxes, for that matter) may leave them at any time. Can a unit leave such a fortification (and of course stay in the hex) between the announcement of an enemy attack and the actual resolution?

We had this case in scenario 6 where the Russian set up in village hexes inside entrenchments to have a better defense against barrages but wanted to use the higher cover of the buildings once the direct firing began.

Thanks!

Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:25 am
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Chadwik

(Chad Jensen)

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Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.

Yes, perfectly legal.

Note that if the opponent starts barraging again, those Russian troops can't just duck back into the entrenchments at will....

Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 4:07 pm
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Ulrich Rieger

(Lebenslicht)

Germany
Hamburg
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Thanks for your quick answer! My office day in Germany ends and the gaming table waits!

Danke for your great games!

Posted Thu Feb 9, 2012 5:06 pm
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Chadwik

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Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.

Gern geschehen. Enjoy!

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