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Weston Ferguson
United States
Everett
Washington
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I see there is an issue with cardsize that has been brought up but no one has mentioned anything of a resolution to it. Both my base game and white moon expansion have the same card size and the cards in Black Secret are bigger, even with sleeves it creates a noticeable difference between cards. Is there anything being done about this?
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I mailed last year (i think in Nov) to repros the problem. The answer was that they are think IF and what they coulf do ... i think they won't do anything, because nobody say something.
very bad
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Weston Ferguson
United States
Everett
Washington
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So this issue is just being swept under the rug?
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Aaron Neilson
United States
Mountain Home
Idaho
Élisabeth Vigée-Lebrun (1755–1842). Self-Portrait in a Straw Hat. After 1782. Oil on canvas, 98 x 70 cm. National Gallery, London, UK.
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I noticed this as well with my cards when I went to sleeve them. The bad part is the MayDay Purple sleeves (Std. USA Card Sleeves, 56 x 87 mm) are an exact fit for the base game and White Moon expansion. The Black Secret cards stick out about a mm from the sleeve... I think I will resleeve everything into Chimera's (Orange sleeves 57.5 x 89 mm)even though it makes the sleeves just about 2mm too big on the width and height. At least it will help cover up the card size differences.
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That is not a fine solution. What do i with the other sleeves? Shuffling wil be catastrophal because the 2mm space. We all have payed a fullprice for a expansion ... that is very much and if it would not be my favorite game i think it is rip-off.
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Aaron Neilson
United States
Mountain Home
Idaho
Élisabeth Vigée-Lebrun (1755–1842). Self-Portrait in a Straw Hat. After 1782. Oil on canvas, 98 x 70 cm. National Gallery, London, UK.
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I agree that it is not the best thing, but it does not seem that there will be replacements made for the game. I tossed out my old sleeves and I do not have any real issues using a loose side shuffle with the Chimera's.
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Matthew Porosky
United States
Seattle
Washington
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I just wrote RPROD again... maybe if enough of us write?
http://boardgamegeek.com/article/8456463#8456463
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Reis Hansen
United States
Brighton
Massachusetts
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I also wrote last week and will follow up next week if there is no response.
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Rich Moore
United States
Oxford
Ohio
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I just checked my BS cards and, well, yes, they are maybe 1mm longer than the base cards. The difference is imperceptible in game play. Unless your cards are substantially bigger than 1 mm, I don't see how this affects game play.
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Matthew Porosky
United States
Seattle
Washington
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Well, while I appreciate that you may find it 'imperceptible' in game play and may have no issue with quality or consistency there are several people that have expressed otherwise not that that fact alone matters. I saw it as a deficiency in product quality and customer service response. I love their games and have expressed as much in other emails. I just feel that even if it is only a 'percieved' deficiency it should still merit a response from the company.
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Reis Hansen
United States
Brighton
Massachusetts
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rcmoore4 wrote: I just checked my BS cards and, well, yes, they are maybe 1mm longer than the base cards. The difference is imperceptible in game play. Unless your cards are substantially bigger than 1 mm, I don't see how this affects game play.
Any difference in card length makes the cards much more difficult to shuffle well and makes the longer cards much more susceptible to damage.
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The damage is more visible if you use card sleeves to protect your cards. With theses damage marks the Taoist-Player knows if there is a new card with the special ability "activate a demon". The ability is important for W Feng and if the player could interruped or prepare for that Wu Feng could have problems ... it is like cheating.
Shufling problem isn't so big ut we shuffles the deck blind. And by taking the last 10 cards you will see everytime the new ones and can change your decissions in the early and middle game.
It is a NoGo that you can see differences.
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Christian B.
Denmark
Frederiksberg C
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I got an answer from them: they do not have any replacement cards in the right size simply because they were never made. They only have spare Black Secret cards in the size which are in the game, so no help.
Perhaps they will make replacement cards if all of the first edition Black Secret boxes get bought and they need to reprint, so go ahead and buy some more! 
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Matthew Porosky
United States
Seattle
Washington
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I recently got a response as well. Same thing. They were very honest, direct, and very apologetic. So there's no solutions for the cards but I feel better about Repos Productions customer response. I'm closing out of this thread. Thanks all for contributing to the discussion. Hopefully they'll be more careful on future roll outs for their products. I do really enjoy their games.
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Christian B.
Denmark
Frederiksberg C
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Absolutely, the customer service was quite good in my opinion!
And yeah it doesn't really work without sleeves but you can solve that problem by using Chimera sleeves (57.5 x 89) - they are a bid too large, but it doesn't really matter that much and at least you cannot really tell the difference between cards from BS and WM and base GS when they are in sleeves. Also, without sleeves it can be hard to keep the cards in good condition, so that's another bonus when sleeving.
Have played once with BS sleeved in Chimera sleeves and it worked very well! 
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Johan Haglert
Sweden
Örebro
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Masakari wrote: The damage is more visible if you use card sleeves to protect your cards. With theses damage marks the Taoist-Player knows if there is a new card with the special ability "activate a demon". The ability is important for W Feng and if the player could interruped or prepare for that Wu Feng could have problems ... it is like cheating.
Shufling problem isn't so big ut we shuffles the deck blind. And by taking the last 10 cards you will see everytime the new ones and can change your decissions in the early and middle game.
It is a NoGo that you can see differences. I haven't played ghost stories but what about drawing from the bottom of the pile?
They you won't know what kind of card it is before you have drawn.
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Matthew Porosky
United States
Seattle
Washington
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aliquis wrote: Masakari wrote: The damage is more visible if you use card sleeves to protect your cards. With theses damage marks the Taoist-Player knows if there is a new card with the special ability "activate a demon". The ability is important for W Feng and if the player could interruped or prepare for that Wu Feng could have problems ... it is like cheating.
Shufling problem isn't so big ut we shuffles the deck blind. And by taking the last 10 cards you will see everytime the new ones and can change your decissions in the early and middle game.
It is a NoGo that you can see differences. I haven't played ghost stories but what about drawing from the bottom of the pile? They you won't know what kind of card it is before you have drawn.
The draw deck is programmed with Wu Feng cards that have a different color back.
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