Bill Sacks
United States
Boulder
Colorado
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I know that you cannot return cubes from the Field Operative (or play special events) between revealing an infection card and placing the cube(s) for that card (http://boardgamegeek.com/article/3986492).
But: Can you return cubes from the Field Operative after resolving one infection card and before drawing the next?
For example, suppose there is one red cube left in the supply, and the Field Operative has 3 red sample cubes on her card. The first infection card draw is a red city, requiring the last red cube to be added to that city. Could the Field Operative return one or more cubes from her card before the next infection card is drawn?
I think this really comes down to the general question: Is the whole Playing the Infector phase un-interruptable by actions that you can do at "any time" - such as returning cubes from the Field Operative, or, say, using Airlift to move the medic to a city containing 3 cubes of a cured disease, in order to immediately remove those cubes? Or can you do these "any time" actions in between infection card draws?
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Tom Lehmann
United States
Palo Alto
California
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bsacks wrote: Can you return cubes from the Field Operative after resolving one infection card and before drawing the next?
Yes.
Quote: Is the whole Playing the Infector phase un-interruptable by actions that you can do at "any time"
No.
Quote: Or can you do these "any time" actions in between infection card draws?
Yes.
At any time means any time *except* between drawing a particular Infection deck card and (fully) resolving its effect. That's one thing you can't interrupt.
Edit: clarified Infection deck above (though I thought that was obvious since all three questions were about the Infection deck).
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hmm, sure about that?
Maybe it changed or it was not given any attention because it was not relevant before this new role.
The original rules say (and show with a nice picture) to draw all cards together (and reveal them). So no time for actions between infection cards
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YaVerOt YaVerOt
United States
Arvada
Colorado
Armchair warriors often fail, and we've been poisoned by these fairy tales.
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Tom Lehmann wrote: At any time means any time *except* between drawing a particular card and (fully) resolving its effect. That's the one thing you can't interrupt.
I know that is wrong. The one thing you can't interrupt is a card once you start resolving it. But between reveal an resolving is specifically allowed for the Player Deck.
Now I fully accept that their may be a different rule for the Infection Deck, such that you can't interrupt between reveal and resolve.
So, player deck, draw multiple cards at once, may play "at any time" cards between reveal and resolve (for epidemic) or to avoid discard.
Infection deck, always drawn 1 card at a time, can't "at any time" between reveal and resolve, but can between resolve and next draw.
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Bill Sacks
United States
Boulder
Colorado
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Tom: Thanks a lot for your reply. It's great to be able to get your official answer to questions. And thanks for designing this great expansion!
My thinking that the entire Infector phase might be un-interruptable was based on two things:
(1) Sendell's point that the original rules seem to imply that all infection cards should be drawn at once. (However, I could see how the rules might have been written this way for simplicity rather than precision.)
(2) Matt's ruling in the following scenario, as given in the FAQ on the Pandemic BGG page:
"Scenario 2:
A player may use the Forecast card to rearrange the cards on the top of the infection deck before they're drawn - but once a card is drawn, the player can't rearrange the cards."
I have interpreted this to mean that once the first infection card is drawn, you cannot use Forecast to rearrange the next 6 cards. (A couple other people have also stated this interpretation: http://boardgamegeek.com/article/5113807.)
How do you reconcile this with the ruling that you can do "any time" actions (including Special Events) between infection card draws? Does Matt's ruling really just mean that once you draw an infection card, you can't use Forecast to bury the just-drawn card deeper in the Infection draw pile (but you can still use Forecast to rearrange the next 6 cards)? Or is Forecast an exception to the general rule?
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Tom Lehmann
United States
Palo Alto
California
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bsacks wrote: How do you reconcile [...] you can do "any time" actions (including Special Events) between infection card draws [and] Matt's ruling [...] you can't use Forecast to bury the just-drawn card deeper in the Infection draw pile? Or is Forecast an exception to the general rule?
Forecast is an exception to the general rule.
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Bill Sacks
United States
Boulder
Colorado
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Thank you very much for these clarifications, Tom!
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Bill Sacks
United States
Boulder
Colorado
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One more related question: How do these rulings apply to the Mutation Event cards?
For example, if you draw "The Mutation Threatens" (draw 1 card from the bottom of the Infection Draw Pile and add 3 purple cubes to the pictured city): Can the Field Operative return purple cubes to the supply, or can you play a special event (e.g., Remote Treatment) before drawing the infection card?
Or: if you draw "The Mutation Spreads" (draw 3 cards from the bottom of the Infection Draw Pile and add 1 purple cube to each of the pictured cities): Can the Field Operative return purple cubes, or can you play a special event, in between the infection draws from this card?
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Tom Lehmann
United States
Palo Alto
California
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These Mutation Event cards are drawn from the player deck. Once you *start resolving* each of them, you cannot play Special events nor return cubes from the Field Operative. You may do so before you start resolving them.
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Bill Sacks
United States
Boulder
Colorado
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Thanks again!
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Matt Leacock
United States
Sunnyvale
California
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Yes, thanks Tom! :-)
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