Roi espino
Spain
Vigo
Pontevedra
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What its the historical fact behind the Welsh conquest of york in turns VIII IX? I tried to search in the wiki and couldn't find the battle.
Yesterday we played a game and that invasion doomed me. I was playing Blue and the welsh were in full power. So I decided to allow them to conquer York on the agreement to allow me return next turn.
Bad move that split my kingdom in two and the Saxons decided to wiped me out in the south, tried to return but with weaker forces I couldn't settle properly and the northern invasion killed most of my Anglos.
That let the Saxons grow freely in the south and eventually gave the red the game. Damn Welsh Damn York.
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Neil Whyman
United States
Williamsport
Pennsylvania
I need more TIME
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Turn 8 is 560-635
Turn 9 is 635-710
Wikipedia has pages for two battles that probably spawned this particular victory point alocation; Hatfield Chase in 633 (in Yorkshire) and Maserfield in 641 or 642 (site uncertain, but possibly Shropshire). In both cases the Mercians under King Penda, and their Welsh allies, defeated Northumbria. Since both Mercia and Northumbria are "Angles", the game can't replicate this except via the Welsh player's scoring.
It is recorded that Penda was able to raid as far north as Bamburgh after these victories, pillaging etc., which would be in the Lothian area of the map, far north of York.
Penda's final campaign was again against Northumbria in 655. Wikipedia says he gathered allies from Wales and East Anglia for it. This time the Northumbrians won, killing Penda at the battle of Winwaed (probably in Yorkshire again).
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Roi espino
Spain
Vigo
Pontevedra
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Thanks for the Hard work in answering Neil, I saw during the day the reply evolve like a britannia game
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Alexandre Leblanc
Canada
Longueuil
Québec
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I think the Welsh VP opportunity in York represents the victories of Cadwallon ap Cadfan.
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Lewis Pulsipher
United States
Linden
North Carolina
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Cadwallon was the only non-English person listed amongst those consider for Bretwalda in Bede's list. For a short time he was dominant, but then (as often happened) lost a battle and was killed.
If I were to make one change in this edition of Brit I might add him as a Welsh leader.
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Richard Vickery
Australia
Tempe (Sydney)
NSW
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Britannica adds a bit more
http://www.britannia.com/history/york/yorkhist3.html
Anglian York is particularly associated with the great King Edwin of Deira who, after a period of Bernician dominance, reasserted an independent Deira in AD 616 and even conquered the more northerly kingdom. York became his Deiran capital, while his Bernician seat was at Yeavering. The monarch took a keen interest in spiritual matters and, after an apparent brief dabble with Christianity in his youth, he was eventually fully converted to this new religion within two years of his marriage to the Christian Princess Ethleburga of Kent in AD 625. [snip]
Edwin is portrayed by the Venerable Bede as the English successor to the high command of the Roman Dux Britanniarum. He may have refortified the city around AD 631 after Kings Cadwallon of Gwynedd and Penda of Mercia invaded the North and brought Deira near to total destruction. The existing (so-called) 'Anglian Tower' in the city may date from this period, though modern theories seem to favour the late Roman period. The building of York Minster was interrupted two years later, when the combined Welsh and Mercian troops mustered for "a burning of York". St. Paulinus fled south. Edwin was later killed at the Battle of Hatfield Chase and Cadwallon set up his headquarters at York. He was unsuccessfully besieged there for a short while by Osric, the new Deiran king.
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