David White
United States
Unspecified
Unspecified
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Hello! Got an unusual question here:
My brother bought this game for our family based on its excellent reviews. I was looking forward to bringing it out to share with some of our church friends, but now that I've had a chance to look at the uploaded pictures of the game board, I'm concerned that the nudity level would make it too uncomfortable for our family and friends.
I haven't actually unwrapped/opened the game in case we need to return it. So I'm not certain how detailed the nudity actually is.
So, could someone with the game tell me? No need to go into explicit detail - perhaps I could just ask, if Eve as depicted on the board was a live actress in a movie, would it be rated PG-13 or R?
Thanks - sorry for the awkward question  , but I figured it's best to know now while we still can exchange the game if need be!
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brian
United States
Cedar Lake
Indiana
Mourning the end of the Manning era.
Welcome baby brother Toby James, 03/24, 8 lb. 15 oz.
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I would classify it as PG. There is an image of the board here. This game doesn't bother me nor my Christian friends.
The extent of it is along the left edge of the mural:
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Mike Cooper
United States
Flower Mound
Texas
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dswhite42 wrote: No need to go into explicit detail - perhaps I could just ask, if Eve as depicted on the board was a live actress in a movie, would it be rated PG-13 or R?
Well, since it's art we're talking about here, I'd say no more than PG-13 (surprisingly, most movies with lower female nudity are rated R, with Doc Hollywood being a rare exception), but if they're going to get that twisted over it, then don't bother.
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Ludere Cum Dignitate
United States
Carrollton
Texas
"[hyperbole], it's pretty much the best and most exceptional and effective way of expressing oneself all the time ever." ~MScrivner
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It's in the style of renaissance art. If that isn't offensive than I doubt this would be.
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S H
United States
Merrillville
Indiana
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Nothing you wouldn't see in any museum or art exhibit.
But everyone has different tolerance levels, i'd ask them.
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Somebody burn that vile pornography quick!
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Well, the fresco starts out covered anyway, so just cover it up before anyone notices. Then don't bring attention to the space when the tile is uncovered. =)
If people start fainting from the vulgar assault on their senses, just argue that you're partway through a game and that it would be a shame not to finish it...
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Lars Wagner Hansen
Denmark
Sorø
Any time, any place!
Fingers off, that's my car!
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Only in USA
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zollom
United States
Tampa
Florida
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l-hansen wrote: Only in USA
Please don't stereotype us like that. I for one enjoy some hardcore porn now and then 
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Joe Rogers
Canada
Ottawa
Ontario
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*staring blankly at screen*
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Bryan Jensen
United States
Layton
Utah
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It's offensive because the artwork is pretty poorly executed. Would have been nice if they had licensed quality Renaissance era artwork.
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David White
United States
Unspecified
Unspecified
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Thanks, all, for the replies. That will help with my decision making.
Semi-related to that, I can identify all the biblical allusions in that fresco above except the top-right one. Who's the woman pouring water on the back of a guy as he stares at a burning... house? temple? Unless it's deep in Ezekiel somewhere, I'm not getting it...
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brian
United States
Cedar Lake
Indiana
Mourning the end of the Manning era.
Welcome baby brother Toby James, 03/24, 8 lb. 15 oz.
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dswhite42 wrote: Thanks, all, for the replies. That will help with my decision making.
Semi-related to that, I can identify all the biblical allusions in that fresco above except the top-right one. Who's the woman pouring water on the back of a guy as he stares at a burning... house? temple? Unless it's deep in Ezekiel somewhere, I'm not getting it...
That is a great mystery to me. Furthermore that she is wearing something puritanical.
Assuming the burning is the destruction of the first temple and not related to the corner image. But I think that is out of order from Jonah on the top. One guess was Jesus, possible being anointed with oil, but again, it doesn't look right and not in chronological order with the rest.
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Frank Hamrick
United States
Rocky Mount
North Carolina
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My guess on the mystery woman is that it's Job's wife washing or pouring ointment on Job's sores.
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Frank Hamrick wrote: My guess on the mystery woman is that it's Job's wife washing or pouring ointment on Job's sores.
That's a good guess. How's about that burning temple?
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Will somebody think of the children!
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Mathue Faulkner
United States
Dallas
Texas
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If you think your group will be offended, then you could always print off a different piece of art and place it over the board (with tiles on top). The actually piece of art has no bearing on game play.
I don't think it's needed, but just a thought in case your group may be offended...
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Bryan Jensen
United States
Layton
Utah
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ah3Dog wrote: Frank Hamrick wrote: My guess on the mystery woman is that it's Job's wife washing or pouring ointment on Job's sores. That's a good guess. How's about that burning temple?
This poorly executed aspect of Fresco's "fresco" (including the burning building and anachronous Reformation-era German attire compared to the rest of the composition) is likely an allusion to Durer's "Job Castigated By His Wife." I share it thanks to having being enlightened (ba dum dum) in a previous thread discussion.
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Bryan Jensen
United States
Layton
Utah
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Knave wrote:
Makes me think of my homebrewed Sistina board expansion. (And a reminder that I need to finish my concept.)
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brian
United States
Cedar Lake
Indiana
Mourning the end of the Manning era.
Welcome baby brother Toby James, 03/24, 8 lb. 15 oz.
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quixotequest wrote: ah3Dog wrote: Frank Hamrick wrote: My guess on the mystery woman is that it's Job's wife washing or pouring ointment on Job's sores. That's a good guess. How's about that burning temple? This poorly executed aspect of Fresco's "fresco" (including the burning building and anachronous Reformation-era German attire compared to the rest of the composition) is likely an allusion to Durer's "Job Castigated By His Wife." I share it thanks to having being enlightened (ba dum dum) in a previous thread discussion.
OK. That makes sense. I don't recall Job's wife pouring water on him though. But it fits the timeline.
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David White
United States
Unspecified
Unspecified
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Thanks, Bryan and Frank - doubtless that's what it is. Nice of Job's wife to at least help him out while she's telling him to curse God and die.
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Dan Foster
United States
St. Paul
Minnesota
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ColtsFan76 wrote:
OK. That makes sense. I don't recall Job's wife pouring water on him though. But it fits the timeline.
Job's wife comforted him, pouring water on someone's wounds is an act of comfort (traditionally/biblcally speaking).
Yeah the art is lacking, but it is a fine game. I may need to print out the Sistine Chapel board...
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brian
United States
Cedar Lake
Indiana
Mourning the end of the Manning era.
Welcome baby brother Toby James, 03/24, 8 lb. 15 oz.
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geberus wrote: ColtsFan76 wrote:
OK. That makes sense. I don't recall Job's wife pouring water on him though. But it fits the timeline.
Job's wife comforted him, pouring water on someone's wounds is an act of comfort (traditionally/biblcally speaking). Yeah the art is lacking, but it is a fine game. I may need to print out the Sistine Chapel board...
Job is my least favorite book but going through it again the next couple of weeks. I just remember her griping and telling him to curse God. I don't remember her being soothing at all.
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Dan Foster
United States
St. Paul
Minnesota
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ColtsFan76 wrote:
Job is my least favorite book but going through it again the next couple of weeks. I just remember her griping and telling him to curse God. I don't remember her being soothing at all.
That is because scholarship has traditionally focused on what she said, and only what she said. What she did is not recorded in the text, but there is a long tradition of her comforting Job in his despair. Remember, she lost everything too. I really like William Blake's take on it, as can be seen below, but look through the whole gallery for more images too. Blake clearly shows Job's wife comforting him in his distress.
ps, Job is one of my favorite books in the whole Bible, but I am weird like that 
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