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Am I the only one who thinks that the blues (the light background and dark lettering) are ever so slightly brighter than the other sets? I swear they look different, and it's not from wear and tear - I've compared a brand new intrigue card to a hinterlands card, and I swear the hinterlands cards stand out in my hand and in my deck.

I went through this with the San Juan expansion - which, due to the darker coloring of the card backs, is unusable for me. I hope we're not going down this road again, RGG....
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Am I the only one who thinks that the blues (the light background and dark lettering) are ever so slightly brighter than the other sets? I swear they look different, and it's not from wear and tear - I've compared a brand new intrigue card to a hinterlands card, and I swear the hinterlands cards stand out in my hand and in my deck.

I went through this with the San Juan expansion - which, due to the darker coloring of the card backs, is unusable for me. I hope we're not going down this road again, RGG....

My heart bleeds for those people who's eyesight and visual memory is so keen that they can tell the difference between certain shades of blue in isolation.

Are you really suggesting that you can determine if the top card of a draw pile is going to be a Hinterlands card or not. That's without comparing it to a non-Hinterlands card being adjacent. Wow, I wish my sight, let alone my visual memory, was that good!
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I wouldn't be surprised. It's an everyday miracle that card companies can keep the same card stock and printing quality for a product over a long period of time.
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I agree. I can tell the difference between Hinterlands cards and other Dominion cards from the color differences in their backs. I do my best not to pay attention when I shuffle them, because it really is a bit of a problem.
 
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I noticed it too.

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Are you really suggesting that you can determine if the top card of a draw pile is going to be a Hinterlands card or not.

Yes. I can also do this with Jambo (base v. expansion), Galaxy Trucker (base v. expansion), and a handful of other games that did not have good color consistency control (which as far as I can see, Dominion has had up until now).

At least it's not as bad as something like Castle Panic, where the expansion cards are a different size than the base cards...
 
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shake Yes, it is. You might be looking for www.holierthanthou.com, said the Social Worker to the non-contributing internet poster who is chastising people on the internet for talking about their hobbies while caring very very much about the features and functionality of Reiner Knizia's Ra on his iPhone or iPad.
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I wouldn't be surprised. It's an everyday miracle that card companies can keep the same card stock and printing quality for a product over a long period of time.


I always took it for granted when I played Magic that the cardbacks were relatively uniform. Now, I work in publishing and have a good idea of how difficult it is for a printer to keep color and tone consistent, even in the same print run. Stock, humidity, temperature, inks, press operator, etc., all have an effect. It amazes me that cardbacks in games like Dominion are consistent at all.
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:shake: Yes, it is. You might be looking for www.holierthanthou.com, said the Social Worker to the non-contributing internet poster who is chastising people on the internet for talking about their hobbies while caring very very much about the features and functionality of Reiner Knizia's Ra on his iPhone or iPad.


I have neither, but have nonetheless evolved beyond such trifles. Think of the children! Won't somebody, please, think of the children!
 
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So, if complaining about a game's manufacturing negatively affecting gameplay can be dismissed as a "first world problem", I would love to hear what you think complaining about other people's complaints on the internet qualifies as. That's got to be a zeroth world problem.

But hey, maybe you're right. From now on, I will make sure I restrict any negative comments I may be tempted to make on BoardGameGeek.com to the subjects of people dying of hunger and preventable disease due to economic inbalance throughout the globe. I can't think of anything more logical to post on the Dominion forums than that.
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So, if complaining about a game's manufacturing negatively affecting gameplay can be dismissed as a "first world problem"


I didn't dismiss it; I pointed it out. And, by the way, it's "First World Problem" not "first world problem".

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I would love to hear what you think complaining about other people's complaints,


Neither was it a complaint. It was an observation.

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on the internet qualifies as. That's got to be a zeroth world problem.


*Zing!*

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But hey, maybe you're right.


There is no maybe about it.

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From now on, I will make sure I restrict any negative comments I may be tempted to make on BoardGameGeek.com to the subjects of people dying of hunger and preventable disease due to economic inbalance throughout the globe.


Also, unpreventable disease and overnutrition.

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I can't think of anything more logical to post on the Dominion forums than that.


On that, we can agree.
 
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Am I the only one who thinks that the blues (the light background and dark lettering) are ever so slightly brighter than the other sets? I swear they look different, and it's not from wear and tear - I've compared a brand new intrigue card to a hinterlands card, and I swear the hinterlands cards stand out in my hand and in my deck.

I went through this with the San Juan expansion - which, due to the darker coloring of the card backs, is unusable for me. I hope we're not going down this road again, RGG....

I haven't paid enough attention to notice the difference. But I did notice the same thing with one of the promos - Black Market, IIRC. I can definitely tell every time one of those is about to appear in the deck. Fortunately, I've never had that paired up with Wishing Well, so it has never been that big of a deal.
 
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Luce wrote:
GSwarthout wrote:
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:shake: Yes, it is. You might be looking for www.holierthanthou.com, said the Social Worker to the non-contributing internet poster who is chastising people on the internet for talking about their hobbies while caring very very much about the features and functionality of Reiner Knizia's Ra on his iPhone or iPad.

Pardon me, does the iPhone belong to the social worker or the internet poster?
 
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:shake: Yes, it is. You might be looking for www.holierthanthou.com, said the Social Worker to the non-contributing internet poster who is chastising people on the internet for talking about their hobbies while caring very very much about the features and functionality of Reiner Knizia's Ra on his iPhone or iPad.

Pardon me, does the iPhone belong to the social worker or the internet poster?


Right; a bit confusing. It was absolutely amazing to me that someone took the initial joke and treated it with dead seriousness. I then responded with tongue even further in cheek and that was also treated with dead seriousness. I would have kept up the lunacy indefinitely had those without a sense of humor continued to respond but, alas ...
 
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Right; a bit confusing. It was absolutely amazing to me that someone took the initial joke and treated it with dead seriousness. I then responded with tongue even further in cheek and that was also treated with dead seriousness. I would have kept up the lunacy indefinitely had those without a sense of humor continued to respond but, alas ...

The problem is is that it's not funny. It insinuates that the people discussing the relevant issue are treating it as though it is a problem of the utmost severity, makes the negative assumption that these people are unaware of greater problems in the world, invalidates the topic of conversation and kills the thread, and leaves no room for actual discourse because it's pithy and meaningless. On top of that, it's downright offensive to people like myself who spend a lot of time working with people who are in really shitty situations only to be told talking about my hobby of choice is a "first world problem" as though the insignificance of the issue is something I'm unaware of. The use of the phrase around the internet has a really stupid fraternal quality, implying "lol high five bro we're not suffering" and does nothing to raise awareness of actual suffering that is happening in the world, not only in third world countries, but everywhere, and again invalidates the suffering of people living in "first world" countries. It's easy to not think of the implications of what a phrase like "first world problems" is actually saying, but hopefully you might be a little more thoughtful about using it (or, perhaps, not using it) in the future.

It's not about having a sense of humor or not. There's plenty of room for jokes. Regurgitated internet catchphrases are not funny; keep that shit on Twitter and 4chan.

And yes, the internet poster was the one with the iPhone/iPad. I knew a quick peek into his posting history would reveal some "first world problems" he was concerned about.
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The problem is is that it's not funny. It insinuates that the people discussing the relevant issue are treating it as though it is a problem of the utmost severity, makes the negative assumption that these people are unaware of greater problems in the world, invalidates the topic of conversation and kills the thread, and leaves no room for actual discourse because it's pithy and meaningless. On top of that, it's downright offensive to people like myself who spend a lot of time working with people who are in really shitty situations only to be told talking about my hobby of choice is a "first world problem" as though the insignificance of the issue is something I'm unaware of.


Evidently, I managed to package an extreme amount of subtext into three words.

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It's not about having a sense of humor or not.


All evidence to the contrary.

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Luce wrote:
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Right; a bit confusing. It was absolutely amazing to me that someone took the initial joke and treated it with dead seriousness. I then responded with tongue even further in cheek and that was also treated with dead seriousness. I would have kept up the lunacy indefinitely had those without a sense of humor continued to respond but, alas ...

The problem is is that it's not funny. It insinuates that the people discussing the relevant issue are treating it as though it is a problem of the utmost severity, makes the negative assumption that these people are unaware of greater problems in the world, invalidates the topic of conversation and kills the thread, and leaves no room for actual discourse because it's pithy and meaningless. On top of that, it's downright offensive to people like myself who spend a lot of time working with people who are in really shitty situations only to be told talking about my hobby of choice is a "first world problem" as though the insignificance of the issue is something I'm unaware of. The use of the phrase around the internet has a really stupid fraternal quality, implying "lol high five bro we're not suffering" and does nothing to raise awareness of actual suffering that is happening in the world, not only in third world countries, but everywhere, and again invalidates the suffering of people living in "first world" countries. It's easy to not think of the implications of what a phrase like "first world problems" is actually saying, but hopefully you might be a little more thoughtful about using it (or, perhaps, not using it) in the future.

It's not about having a sense of humor or not. There's plenty of room for jokes. Regurgitated internet catchphrases are not funny; keep that shit on Twitter and 4chan.

And yes, the internet poster was the one with the iPhone/iPad. I knew a quick peek into his posting history would reveal some "first world problems" he was concerned about.


Well said, sir. Now if the trolls are quite finished, I'd like to know whether anyone else thinks that this really is a problem, esp given the lack of treasure cards in the set. For example, if I've got one or two hinterlands cards out of the 10 kingdom cards, and I can spot them (and I can), I may have quite an advantage knowing that the next card is not treasure, curses, or VP - or I can see as much in my opponent's hands. The wishing well is also implicated as one of the first posters indicated. To be honest, I'm really disappointed with this.

Oh, and on the way home from work, I'm going to give a bum a dollar and punch a hipster douchebag in the face.
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All evidence to the contrary.

No really, your attempted joke was not funny, at all. Please feel free to employ humor on the internet in the event that you ever learn to actually be funny.

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ghorsche wrote:
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All evidence to the contrary.

No really, your attempted joke was not funny, at all. Please feel free to employ humor on the internet in the event that you ever learn to actually be funny.


*Zing!*
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And yes, the internet poster was the one with the iPhone/iPad. I knew a quick peek into his posting history would reveal some "first world problems" he was concerned about.
Oh, thanks for helping me with that. So what does the social worker have to do with anything? Please help me again..
 
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Luce is the social worker. So I'd hazard that he (quite understandably) takes offense to people insinuating that he is insensitive to "real world" problems.
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I thought it was funny. I'm so sick of bgg threads degrading into gripe fests over nothing. He quoted an internet meme, I don't see why that's such a crime. If you didn't think it was funny then just move on and do like me.

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