Jordan Czop
Canada
Victoria
British Columbia
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I recently bought Power Grid two months back and have played it five times now. An issue that has come up several times when playing with two players, and once with three players, is the issue of placing buildings in step 1. From my understanding in a two player game you must select three areas from the map to play in. Players must then only play within these three areas for the entirety of the game. What has come up has been the issue of blocking which impacts the game immensely. What happens is that by the fifth turn someone will end up blocked off and unable to place because the other player(s) have bought up all the surrounding cities (and until step two only one building is allowed in a city). Thus allowing one player to keep on building cities until he builds his 10th city and the other player has, say, only 6 (thereby instigating step 2 in a two player game). Because of this we decided on a house rule that each player starts building in the corner of the map and works his way inward from the edge. This really puts a damper on the game. House rule aside, are we playing this correctly, is this a game flaw? Or am I just two slow to stop myself from being blocked...? Any help would be great.
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Steve Wardell
United States
Carmel
Indiana
I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed.
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You do not have to build in adjacent cities, you can build several cities away as long as you pay all the connection costs in between.
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What Steve said.
So, looking at the US map, if I've built in Boston, New York, and Philadelphia, and my opponent has built in Washington, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo, I can pay 3 (the connection cost from Philadelphia to Washington), plus 5 (the connection cost from Washington to Norfolk), plus 10 (the cost to build in Norfolk), and put a city in Norfolk for 18. Later, when step 2 has started, I can play 3 plus 15 (18) to build in Washington: the fact that I've paid a connection cost to build through Washington doesn't let me avoid paying the connection cost (again) later. If it helps, think of it as being the costs of building an underground cable.
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Fraser
Australia
Melbourne
Yep that was 12 Power Grid maps back to back over two days. Worth doing, but possibly not in such a concentrated burst.
Ooh yes, now a little to the left - my nose is itchy. No, no the other left! Now what colour is 12 supporter badge going to be I wonder?
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I can recommend reading the Power Grid FAQ
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Apollo Andy
United States
Fort Worth
Texas
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Also, for that very reason, the player building first should almost always build close to the center of the map.
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Randall Bart
United States
Granada Hills
California
Red October
Earth is one of my favorite planets
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ApolloAndy wrote: Also, for that very reason, the player building first should almost always build close to the center of the map.
Have you ever played on the Spain map?
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Travis Hall
Australia
Brisbane
Queensland
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ApolloAndy wrote: Also, for that very reason, the player building first should almost always build close to the center of the map.
That seems like a good way to find yourself neatly ringed by the cities of the other players and have to pay for the jump over to clear space on about turn 3. I generally find myself trying to judge just how far from the edge I can build before someone else judges it worth it to play between my city and the edge.
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Apollo Andy
United States
Fort Worth
Texas
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I'm referring specifically to 2 players as that seems to be what the OP was mostly asking about.
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Jordan Czop
Canada
Victoria
British Columbia
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Khedron wrote: You do not have to build in adjacent cities, you can build several cities away as long as you pay all the connection costs in between.
Dude! This is so very helpful! I didn't realize that. Thanks for your help.
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Bob Melkus
Serbia
Novi Sad
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shikosaki wrote:
Dude! This is so very helpful! I didn't realize that. Thanks for your help.
It says so in the rules, quite clearly. But of course we always miss one thing or the other in the rules, so I will second Fraser's statement, please read Power Grid FAQ it will help you with all these little issues.
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Jordan Czop
Canada
Victoria
British Columbia
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bobmelkus wrote: shikosaki wrote:
Dude! This is so very helpful! I didn't realize that. Thanks for your help.
It says so in the rules, quite clearly. But of course we always miss one thing or the other in the rules, so I will second Fraser's statement, please read Power Grid FAQ it will help you with all these little issues.
Thanks for the FAQ. I have read the rules several times I missed it each time. I do find the power grid rules one of the less legible rule books as there are an incredible amount of exceptions and special circumstances for each phase. Again thanks for the help.
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