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Subject: Perseus and retreat rss

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" When Perseus loses a battle round,
he may let one troop retreat instead
of destroying it (this effect can be
used several times per round). "


What do you understand from this ?
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daniphp wrote:
" When Perseus loses a battle round,
he may let one troop retreat instead
of destroying it (this effect can be
used several times per round). "


What do you understand from this ?


A and B are fighting. B has Perseus, and is attacking A. They roll. A wins. Normally, B would lose a troop. Instead, Perseus allows that troop to retreat instead of dying.

It means that B can attack (from Perseus' island) without fear of losing troops, even if dice hate them. A long as they're willing to keep paying Perseus' maintenance fee.

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One more time.. thanks a lot for your comments Eric !!!
It's definitively most understandable that what i wold have written !! laugh
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Ok, it sounds good but does the rule "he needs a boat between islands" to retreat is still on ?

What if B attacks with Perseus using the Pegas?
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daniphp wrote:
Ok, it sounds good but does the rule "he needs a boat between islands" to retreat is still on ?

What if B attacks with Perseus using the Pegas?


The quick rules don't say anything about changing the rules for retreats - only that it's an option instead of death.

I'd argue that he only allows a retreat if one is normally available. Since you can't retreat when attacking via Pegasus, even Perseus can't help you back out of that one.

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Are we sure about the "retreat" rules for Perseus? Cause of the "pegasus" effect, i think that you can retreat the troops even if you don't have a boat between the islands.
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polystrofos wrote:
Are we sure about the "retreat" rules for Perseus? Cause of the "pegasus" effect, i think that you can retreat the troops even if you don't have a boat between the islands.


I you want to retreat, you need to have boats that link the island you're attacking to an island you own. That is always true, even with Perseus and even with the Pegasus.
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What about the sacrifice effect? If you sacrifice you can move your armies to an island not connected by boats? A player argued that the effect has the pegassus symbol on the card. (We ruled that you still need a boat to move the troops, and that you may only go to an island you own.)

Another question about the sacrifice effect: can you move your armies to an opponents island and trigger an attack? (We ruled that you can't, as it is not happening in the action phase, but during income.)

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Gogolski wrote:
What about the sacrifice effect? If you sacrifice you can move your armies to an island not connected by boats? A player argued that the effect has the pegassus symbol on the card. (We ruled that you still need a boat to move the troops, and that you may only go to an island you own.)

Another question about the sacrifice effect: can you move your armies to an opponents island and trigger an attack? (We ruled that you can't, as it is not happening in the action phase, but during income.)

Cheese!
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The sacrifice effect is exactly the same as using Pegasus. The same rules apply.

You do not sacrifice a hero during the income phase ! If you do not pay the 2 GP, the hero is simply discarded, not sacrificed. If you did pay the 2 GP, then, on your turn, when you do your actions, you can sacrifice the hero to get its benefit.

That means that in order to sacrifice a hero, you must have paid for it at least once.
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Thanks a bunch. seems like we played it all wrong the first time. Next time (which might be in about an hour) we'll play it right then.

Just to be sure: each hero counts as one troop when calculating combat strength, right? (except for the hero that counts as two)

Greetz,
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Gogolski wrote:

Just to be sure: each hero counts as one troop when calculating combat strength, right? (except for the hero that counts as two)

Greetz,
Fred.


That is correct.
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