Diplomacy II Using the secondary to take a planet in the system where the primary was used | Twilight Imperium (third edition): Shattered Empire

Andrew Rintoul

(Big A)

Australia
Canberra
ACT

I lock down (everyone puts in a command counter) a multiplanet system with the primary ability of Diplomacy.

Can someone use the secondary to annex an empty planet in the system?

We ruled yes, after not finding anything specific in the rules or FAQ (may have missed something) but it didn't seem very thematic. Ie you are spending alot of diplomatic effort to protect the system then someone takes it out from under your nose.

Any advice on this would be appreciated.

A

Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:06 am
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Justin Hoeger

(Sarcasmorator)

United States
Oceano
California

Yeah, someone could do that, since the secondary doesn't require an activation, just an empty planet. I'd say it's even thematic — think of it as a faction doing an end-run around a negotiated demilitarized zone by influencing the inhabitants into switching allegiances on their own.

Also, since the executing player for Diplomacy II primary doesn't have to put their own CC in the system affected, there's nothing to stop you from activating the system yourself to take back the planet that was just annexed.

Last edited Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:14 am (Total Number of Edits: 2)
Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:12 am
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Scott Milbuta

(atraangelis)

United States
Winter Springs
Florida

Owch, sneaky. Im gonna have to look at this situation closely in my games.

Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:21 am
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Andrew Rintoul

(Big A)

Australia
Canberra
ACT

Sarcasmorator wrote:

Also, since the executing player for Diplomacy II primary doesn't have to put their own CC in the system affected, there's nothing to stop you from activating the system yourself to take back the planet that was just annexed.

Just the 6 enemy pds units in range of the system

Thanks for the answer.

Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:29 am
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Scott Lewis

(sigmazero13)

United States
Castle Rock
Colorado

Dread Our Coming, Suffer Our Presence, Embrace Our Glory (Solonavi War Cry)

Remember, though, that to annex a planet with the Diplomacy II secondary, you must have complete control of an adjacent system by controlling all planets and having a non-Fighter ship there.

Otherwise, this is indeed legal. Leaving empty planets in border systems can be dangerous.

Posted Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:38 pm
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