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How does this work? I guess the main question would be, Does the Race card have priority over the special power, or does the special power have priority over the race card?
Reborn: Each turn, empty 1 or 2 of your in-decline regions and replace each of them with a single token from your current active race.
Kobolds: Kobolds may never occupy a region with fewer than 2 tokens. However, when going into decline, only 1 token is left in each region.
My understanding is that I can not use the Reborn ability to flip an inactive race as this would immediately cause an infraction in the Kobolds ability in that they can never occupy a region with fewer than 2 tokens.
Is this agreed?
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Jeff Dunford
Canada
Ottawa
Ontario
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I think it still works. You just have to put at least 2 Kobolds per region during your troop redeployment phase.
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Gary Pressler
United States
West Lafayette
Indiana
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Reborn could work with active Kobolds. However, in order to do so, you need to be able to have a unit available to add to that region during Troop Redeployment. If not, no flip.
That's just my interpretation, based mostly on the fact that "occupy" only really counts when scoring. Phillipe can rule otherwise, but I prefer not to make a combo useless. (Admittedly, a declined-active combo that could be avioded by NOT taking Kobold after Reborn...)
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Danny Mack
United States
Santa Fe Springs
California
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My understanding of Reborn- is that it works only in decline.
If you have Reborn Kobolds it really wouldn't be any different from any other race: they leave only 1 token per region when in decline.
You would replace that single token with 1 from your new active race.
But I perceive that you are talking about following some decline Reborn-race with an active Kobold race. The question then, is how to reconcile the old race's rebirth ability (which allows only 1 token to occupy the exchanged region) with the active Kobolds (which require that they always occupy regions with 2 tokens.)
The answer is in the rulebook for Underground, page 12.
rules wrote: ...Replace these tokens with a single new token from your Active Race (taken from the tray, or from your hand if none are left in the tray)...
First of all, it's your choice whether to pick the Kobolds to follow your Reborn-race.
Secondly, it's your choice whether to use the Reborn- power at the beginning of the Kobolds turn.
Lastly, if you do use rebirth to get your Kobolds on the board, you are entitled to 1 token from the tray. According to the rules, anything beyond that comes from your hand. So, you pair the Reborn-race with the Kobolds at your own risk--at the expense of the Kobolds' ability to perform standard conquests. If you are pulling tokens from your hand at the beginning of your turn for rebirth, you won't have as many to conquer new regions with.
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Garth Palmer
United States
Roseburg
OR
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he's talking about having Reborn Kobolds as the new race after previous race is in decline. Reborn says "1 token", Kobolds says they cant have less than 2. i think Kobolds would take precedence, since doesnt their ability say they "cant ever have less than 2 in a region when they are the active race"? that says to me it overrides Reborn.
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shinobigarth wrote: he's talking about having Reborn Kobolds as the new race after previous race is in decline. Reborn says "1 token", Kobolds says they cant have less than 2. i think Kobolds would take precedence, since doesnt their ability say they "cant ever have less than 2 in a region when they are the active race"? that says to me it overrides Reborn.
Again, Reborn works only in decline.
Quote: Reborn
Once your Reborn are In Decline, at the start
of each of your turns you may empty 1 or 2
of their Regions, and replace these tokens
with a single new token from your Active
Race (taken from the tray, or from your hand if none are left
in the tray) in each of these Regions.
So if you have reborn kobolds as active race, reborn does nothing as it works only in decline. When you decline the kobolds, the kobold power doesnt apply, so reborn works as normal.
As for the other way around, I say reborn works with kobolds as active, and reborn on the indecline race.
You reborn one kobold at the start of your turn, you then pick it up to your hand, as kobolds cant be alone, and resume conquest.
If you decide to decline, it should/would have to go I assume.
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Danny Mack
United States
Santa Fe Springs
California
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To the OP:
You need to get on here and clarify what it is you are asking about:
A) Following a declined race with active Reborn Kobolds.
B) Following a declined Reborn race with active Kobolds.
C) Following declined Reborn Kobolds with an active race.
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