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Gasoline can be deployed "at any time during your move". Does that mean Move Action or an actual move on the board?
If it's Move Action, I guess I can play it before/after searching (even if The Line Is Dead -- it cancelled my Search, not my phase). And Overconfident players can stand there and douse themselves -- how awesomely thematic is that?
Otherwise, you can't deploy Gas while searching, but you can while riding a horse (yes!), or even after getting Jumper Cabled by a Z with Fighting Instincts. But Overconfident heroes can't deploy at all. And if you hit a Locked Door, did you lose your chance?
This may seem picayune, but my entire Hero strategy is Gasoline so any clarification would be a great relief to my worthy victims.
Edited for wildly inaccurate title and spacing.
Edited again, for clarity and to indulge OCD.
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Spencer Myers
United States
Unspecified
Unspecified
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You can pour gas during the "move action" phase of that particular hero's turn.
Pouring gas is meant to be used in conjunction with moving the character on the board, so you could not pour the gas if you intend to search that turn instead of moving.
You could pour the gas while riding the horse only if you're using the horse during that character's move phase. I do not believe you can pour the gas if you use the horse card at any other time however, but I am not certain of that.
Anyone else have thoughts about that particular situation?
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Mindy G
United States
Portland
Oregon
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I agree with your post. It's not just anytime you move, it's during your official "Move".
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Thanks for both your quick resposes. What I'm hearing is that it has to be BOTH during the the Move Action AND while moving (not searching or healing).
I must respectfully disagree.
From a rules-lawyering standpoint, it's clearer if it's one or the other.
Thematically, searching or healing seems like the ideal time to deploy Gasoline nearby.
IN any event, one occasionally important question remains: if I get Locked Doored, can I throw gas before the hordes overwhelm me?
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Orriecat, I may have misread your response. On reread, it looks like you're coming down on the side of "during Move Action", whether you move or not. Have I got that right?
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Spencer Myers
United States
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I maintain that deploying gas is associated with physically moving the character since the character is carrying the can around with him and dumping it as he goes. I could be wrong, though, but I've never seen a case made for pouring gas in addition to search/heal. The Faq might shed some light on it, will check it tomorrow and see.
But as I understand it, searching requires the character to give up any move-related actions in order to search the building for stuff. Deploying gas does not logically fit with searching in this case.
Likewise, if you're healing you're focussed on resting and not wandering around pouring gas.
That's why you cannot search or heal and move at the same time. The tradeoff is that you have to give up moving to search or heal.
As for the door locked card... technically your movment ends immediately and you should not be allowed to deploy gas after that (thematically it's meant to be a sudden jarring "running into the door" that would stop the character in his tracks in a movie, etc.
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Mindy G
United States
Portland
Oregon
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I agree with Spencer. The card says "At any time during your move". It doesn't say anytime you move, so you couldn't use it if something else moves you. And if you're searching, you're not moving. (Note, I used the capital M Move earlier just to differentiate from other times you might get moved. I still think you have to be moving.)
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Intuitively, I'm inclined to agree. But I still think "during your move" should mean either "during your Move Action" or "when you're moving". Note that the horse and jumper cables both use the word "move", which makes it a vagueish term.
I've historically played it open, as in "I can deploy while I heal" and "I can deploy because I'm moving on a horse." That's because I know the game better than my friends, and love winning, and love Gasoline deeply. Sure it's overpowered, so is Taken Over. I feel it has huge theme / heroism / cleverness potential, but could benefit from clear limits to how clever one can get.
I still want to leave it open for comboes though. It's hard for me to get behind the idea that "during your move" means "during your Move Action, only if you're moving". It just cuts off too many options. Let Gasoline free!
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Brian Peirce
United States
Massachusetts
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At any time during your move not at anytime during your turn. During your turn you search or move, searching isn't considered moving. You can't do both. So, you could roll a 6 move 3 spaces drop the gasoline and continue moving the next three is how we interpret it.
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Brian Peirce
United States
Massachusetts
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Also the FAQ question is confusing -
There is a question that states
If I have four items including Gasoline or Old Betsy and pick up a 5th can I immediately use Old Betsy or Gasoline to avoid discarding the card?
Answer - Yes. You can immediately hand off the item to a hero in your space.
Well, thats confusing because if you could only deploy the gasoline during your move then this would imply that you could deploy it if you decided to search instead of moving HOWEVER the answer to the FAQ in the manual says "Yes. You can immediately hand off the item to another hero in your space." UM what? That makes no sense?? So, can you use it or can't you? This is also saying you can only exchange the item. ??
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Mindy G
United States
Portland
Oregon
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That is confusing, because it doesn't actually answer the question asked, it answers a different question.
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Biodiesel
United States
Manassas
Virginia
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oriecat wrote: I agree with Spencer. The card says "At any time during your move". It doesn't say anytime you move, so you couldn't use it if something else moves you. And if you're searching, you're not moving. (Note, I used the capital M Move earlier just to differentiate from other times you might get moved. I still think you have to be moving.)
You should be able to Search AND deploy the gasoline. The Search takes place during your move action. Look at the FAQ for Survival of the Fittest, where it answers a question about Stacy, the Investigative Reporter. She can draw a card if she ends her move on a spawning pit, even if she started her turn there AND searched instead of moving around. This is per the official written rules, the word of our lord, J. C. Hill. {sorry, maybe got a little carried away with that last bit  )
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I've played that the Gasoline may be deployed at ANY time during the Move/Search phase of the turn.
You should be able to deploy the gas even if you decide to search, also you should be able to deploy gasoline at any point during your movement, be that at the beginning, end, or anywhere in-between.
The game's rules are written very well to take into consideration a "real world" feel. If I were to 'search' for items in a building, that shouldn't prevent me from being able to simply set my gasoline canister down (to later shoot and blow up!) Same goes for the movement, moving from point A to point B, i see a bottleneck, *drop gasoline*, keep moving.
I've played this game many times over, this variation of the rule has always seemed to work out quite well.
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Posted Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:12 am
