Peter Cox
Bosnia & Herzegovina
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Right, so I had another read of the rules today while considering a possible variant, and realised I might be playing something wrong.
Here's what I've been doing with starting quests:
1. Player gets 2 face down starting quests. 2. Player gets two 'set up quests' face up to organise map tiles. 3. The dealt set up quests shuffled back into the quest deck (other set up quests set aside)
So at the start of the game, each player has 2 secret starting quests.
But I've realised that though the rules for set up quests never say to shuffle the setup quests back in. I just assumed because it was under 'Map Setup', they were just purely for creating of the map. But maybe I should I be playing with each player starting with 4 quest cards (2 face up setup quests, 2 secret) instead of 2?
Not sure whether I've been interpreting it right or not.
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Scott Lewis
United States Castle Rock Colorado
Dread Our Coming, Suffer Our Presence, Embrace Our Glory (Solonavi War Cry)
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The rules do specify to shuffle the Setup Quests back in. It's not in the Map Setup section, but rather step 6 of the main Setup section:
"6. Build the Quest Deck: Remove all Quest cards from the deck that refer to areas that are not part of the game board. Then add each player’s Setup Quest cards to the Quest deck and shuffle it thoroughly. All cards removed from the deck are returned to the game box."
Step 9 is where you receive your Starting quests.
If I'm reading your above sequence right, there is something you are doing wrong - Your step #1 should be AFTER step #3. IE, you deal out Setup Quest cards to each player, which specifies which tiles should be used. Then, after building the map, you shuffle the Setup Quests back into the Quest Deck, and then deal each player 2 "starting" Quests.
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Peter Cox
Bosnia & Herzegovina
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Aha! Cool, I was beginning to think I'd imagined reading that rule.
I was a bit confused because 'Map Set Up' is listed after 'Set Up', like it's an equal heading rather than a sub-heading, so while I was glancing over, I was reading it as do set up, then do map set up, which is dumb for a bunch of reasons, lol.
Yes, I was doing it the above way you're saying, just wrote it wrong in the above description.
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Sam Butler
United States Fort Walton Beach Florida
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petercox1001 wrote: Here's what I've been doing with starting quests:
1. Player gets 2 face down starting quests. 2. Player gets two 'set up quests' face up to organise map tiles. 3. The dealt set up quests shuffled back into the quest deck (other set up quests set aside)
If you are doing it in that order, you are doing it wrong...but not in the way you may have suspected. It should be:
1. Each player gets 2 'set up quests' face up to organize map tiles. 2. Quests in the game referring to other areas are set aside; all other quests, including setup quests that were drawn, are shuffled into a quest deck. 3. Players get 2 face down starting quests each. This may or may not comprise of setup quests, quests referring to an area on the board, or quests that do not refer to an area. It should never be a quest that refers to an area not on the map.
Nobody should ever have a quest referring to an out-of-play area.
The key is that the Build Game Board (aka Map Setup) step is step 3, and the receive quests setup is step 9.
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Scott Lewis
United States Castle Rock Colorado
Dread Our Coming, Suffer Our Presence, Embrace Our Glory (Solonavi War Cry)
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butsam wrote: The key is that the Build Game Board (aka Map Setup) step is step 3, and the receive quests setup is step 6. Well, strictly speaking step 6 is where you build the quest deck. You don't actually receive your quests until step 9.
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Sam Butler
United States Fort Walton Beach Florida
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Correct; dyslexics of the world, untie!
Edited post above to fix.
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