John Gjertsen
United States
Trent Woods
North Carolina
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I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way—I love this game's theme and mechanics and just about all the rules (the searching is a little awkward)—but it is a major investment of time to set up and take down the board only to have a lopsided scenario in between that one side wins rather easily.
Having played through most of the early scenarios, it seemed like Salemites could never get a break, especially when the victory for NORAD involved getting "Speedy Gonzalez" Vasquez to escape from the map. And then I played the 4-player scenario "Pillage" and it was ridiculously impossible for 2 NORAD players starting outside without keycards to defend themselves against 4 Salemites (including Jack Saw and Einzstein), whilst trying to search the buildings for high value/low weight loot (a small minority of cards).
I'd like to know from other players who have played scenarios multiple times if any of them seem anything like even odds for the two factions?
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I have played the first scenario many times, and I think NORAD has won most of the times...
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John Gjertsen
United States
Trent Woods
North Carolina
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banjojohn wrote: I have played the first scenario many times, and I think NORAD has won most of the times...
Agreed. Very hard for Salemites to win once Vasquez is found. She's too fast, and without the duel for interruption rules, it's impossible to stop her. It's also not that interesting of a scenario without the ranged weapons, and not one I'd ever return to, even with new players.
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Andy
United States
Piney Flats
Tennessee
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I actually just played Earth Reborn for the first time last night with my wife and we played the first scenario to ease her into the rules. She played Norad and she was getting upset that she felt she had to be on the defensive since she was outnumbered with only two characters to control (and initially just the one). Once I explained that Vasquez has so much movement and that I was actually the one handicapped she enjoyed the session much more. (She won by the way.)
I'd still say it's a worthwhile scenario to introduce to new players because it eases them into the game and if you let the new player be Norad they'll probably win and get more intrigued about the game and how it may be more than meets the eye.
But to the op, yeah it's way unbalanced and not one that I would return to once everyone knows the rules.
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CycyX
France
Magny en Vexin
Val d'Oise
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gjertsen wrote: Agreed. Very hard for Salemites to win once Vasquez is found. She's too fast, and without the duel for interruption rules, it's impossible to stop her. It's also not that interesting of a scenario without the ranged weapons, and not one I'd ever return to, even with new players.
I think somewhere in the rule book, Christophe mentioned that you could replay the different scenarios including all the rules you wanted, thus you
can replay the first one with interruption...
But once the rules are learn, why bother why scenario? 
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gjertsen wrote: banjojohn wrote: I have played the first scenario many times, and I think NORAD has won most of the times... Agreed. Very hard for Salemites to win once Vasquez is found. She's too fast, and without the duel for interruption rules, it's impossible to stop her. It's also not that interesting of a scenario without the ranged weapons, and not one I'd ever return to, even with new players.
Whoops, I actually meant the salenmites, believe it or not. You do know that she cannot go through enemies, right. The salemites in our plays have usually been able to trap her in her room or another room, forcing Franck to break down a wall for her to escape (or kill the blocking salemite). If Franck tries to break the wall and fails one or two times it looks very good for the salemites.
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Andy
United States
Piney Flats
Tennessee
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banjojohn wrote: gjertsen wrote: banjojohn wrote: I have played the first scenario many times, and I think NORAD has won most of the times... Agreed. Very hard for Salemites to win once Vasquez is found. She's too fast, and without the duel for interruption rules, it's impossible to stop her. It's also not that interesting of a scenario without the ranged weapons, and not one I'd ever return to, even with new players. Whoops, I actually meant the salenmites, believe it or not. You do know that she cannot go through enemies, right. The salemites in our plays have usually been able to trap her in her room or another room, forcing Franck to break down a wall for her to escape (or kill the blocking salemite). If Franck tries to break the wall and fails one or two times it looks very good for the salemites.
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