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Yo!
Got a couple of questions for ze professors out there!
So:
I recently added Order in Chaos in my empire deck, kind of old school, unit bypass (Franz's Decree, Gold Wizard Acolyte) and fast dmg output with the necessary control provided by good ol' Sigmar Churches, Iron Discipline, Infiltrate and Surrender.
My question is : how do you determine the order in which the cards enter your discard pile, for example you got 3 units dying at the same time along maybe with some attachements. Is it left to my discretion to stack them the way i want in the discard pile? I am asking this since it kind of matters when you play Order in Chaos. Also, once I pick those 2 cards up, do i place them in any order i like upon my deck?
A couple of scenarios as well for those that are still reading
Concerns a combo in my Dwarf deck.
-Zhufbar Engineers in my Battlefield (Forced: after this unit leaves play each opponent must sacrifice a unit in this corresponding zone).
-Enemy is attacking with say 2 units.
-I play Honor in Death (Sacrifice a unit to destroy target attacking unit) once attackers are declared.
Am i correct to assume that the moment I sac my Zhufbar, target attacking unit is instantly destroyed (unless the tactic is somehow countered) and in addition the second one is destroyed as well after Zhufbar leaves play. I am led to this conclusion since triggered effects are resolved before Forced.
In the same context I shouldn't be able to sac a Slayer of Karak Kadrin in order to destroy an attacker (Action: Sacrifice this unit to destroy one target attacking unit) and at the same time play My Life for the Hold (Sac a unit to cancel all damage dealt to your capital this turn) on the same Slayer in order to cancel the rest of the damage as well, right, since I have already paid the cost in the first place by sacing the said slayer.
Any feedback would be hugely appreciated
Thanks in advance 
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eraserhead wrote: My question is : how do you determine the order in which the cards enter your discard pile, for example you got 3 units dying at the same time along maybe with some attachements. Is it left to my discretion to stack them the way i want in the discard pile?
If they really enter the discard pile at the same time (like when they are destroyed in combat or by Troll Vomit) then yes, you can determine the order of the cards.
Quote: I am asking this since it kind of matters when you play Order in Chaos. Also, once I pick those 2 cards up, do i place them in any order i like upon my deck?
Yes.
Quote: A couple of scenarios as well for those that are still reading
Concerns a combo in my Dwarf deck.
-Zhufbar Engineers in my Battlefield (Forced: after this unit leaves play each opponent must sacrifice a unit in this corresponding zone).
-Enemy is attacking with say 2 units.
-I play Honor in Death (Sacrifice a unit to destroy target attacking unit) once attackers are declared.
Am i correct to assume that the moment I sac my Zhufbar, target attacking unit is instantly destroyed (unless the tactic is somehow countered) and in addition the second one is destroyed as well after Zhufbar leaves play. I am led to this conclusion since triggered effects are resolved before Forced.
It doesn't matter if the tactic is countered. When a card says do x to do y, x is part of the cost. So you when you play Honor in Death, you sacrifice the unit immediately.
Triggered effects aren't generally resolved before forced effects, it depends on the kind of effect. Actions, constant and forced effects can all have triggers. If a constant or forced effect is triggered during an action, you resolve it immediately, interrupting the chain. It also interrupts if it is triggered when you pay the cost for an action This is what happens in your example. You are playing an action, Honor in Death. You choose the target, pay the action's cost (1 resource and the sacrifice), and the sacrifice triggers the Engineers' forced effect. It is resolved immediately, so your opponent has to sacrifice a unit in his corresponding zone. This can be the unit you targeted with Honor in Death. Then you get back to your action. Assuming neither you nor your opponent respond to it with other actions, it resolves. Without consequences, since its target is gone.
If the Engineers weren't in your battlefield, and your opponent had a unit in the corresponding zone, he would lose two units, one to the Engineers' effect and one to Honor in Death. Same if the Engineers would let you target a unit of his.
Quote: In the same context I shouldn't be able to sac a Slayer of Karak Kadrin in order to destroy an attacker (Action: Sacrifice this unit to destroy one target attacking unit) and at the same time play My Life for the Hold (Sac a unit to cancel all damage dealt to your capital this turn) on the same Slayer in order to cancel the rest of the damage as well, right, since I have already paid the cost in the first place by sacing the said slayer.
Correct.
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Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012 7:54 pm
