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IS there any way to lose an Ally that you can think of?
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One can discard an ally to satisfy the "The Stars are Right" rumor, or to attempt the "Join the Winning Team" mission. I can't think of any circumstances which REQUIRE the loss of an ally, but that hardly means there aren't any.
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Certain GOOs require you to lose Allies. Actually, you lose something that could be an Ally. This is on some sheets and Epic Battle cards.

Some OW encounters also bring in Allies and then have a condition to discard them.

Mythos also hit Allies.
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There is at least one encounter at Ma's that forces you to discard an ally (if you have one), but you get to draw another one. I believe that encounter is from Kingsport.
Given the precedent there may be other encounters in Arkham.
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In Curse of the Dark Pharaoh, The Messenger can be discarded rather than your investigator being devoured. In Lurker, I think there's a Reckoning card that requires the discarding of Bound Allies or bad things happen.

To continue Coltfan's thought, there's an OW encounter in one of the expansions that gives an ally for x turns, x = to current sanity, I believe.

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I think there is one of the Blight cards in KiY also discards allies.
All of them i think.
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Elfving71 wrote:
I think there is one of the Blight cards in KiY also discards allies.
All of them i think.


Ma Mathieson being driven insane closes her boarding house. I've always read that blight as saying that the allies "in play" are removed from the game. I've always thought the others were still available.

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You also collectively lose 1 ally at random (from the stack of available ally cards) every time the terror level increases...

(Hey, I know: that's probably NOT what the OP was asking for, right? )
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Brian,
"Discard all Allies from play. Ma's Boarding House is closed for the rest of the game. "

Unless you're playing house rules that is ALL of the allies.

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mageith wrote:
Brian,
"Discard all Allies from play. Ma's Boarding House is closed for the rest of the game. "

Unless you're playing house rules that is ALL of the allies.



". . . from play" is what makes me believe it refers to those that have already joined the cause.

There are those who interpret the word "discard" as meaning they go back to the bottom of the ally deck, because some of the instructions specifically direct one to remove the ally from the game.

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The way I read it is that all Allies currently... allied (in play) are discarded (returned to the stack) and then Ma's Boarding House is shut. That means that the only way you're going to get an Ally from now on is to have an Encounter.

If the sense of it was to remove all Allies from the board and from any Investigator's tableau, I think it would just say "return all Allies and the Ally deck to the box". After all, when the Terror Level affects Allies it says "select one Ally card at random from the Ally deck and return it to the box", it doesn't say "discard an Ally fromn the deck" (though that would be nonsensical)
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I agree with the above two statements. "Discarding" is not the same as "returning to the box." So I just see it as all Allies in the game go back to the Ally Deck and you can't get them through Ma's Boarding House anymore. You can still draw them through encounters, starting new investigators, defeating the Dunwich Horror and all other game mechanics.
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Good to hear! I've been too rough on myself!
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mageith wrote:
Good to hear! I've been too rough on myself!


Same for me.....

BTW our AO was Glaaki and by discarding all of them we where adding more then 5 Servants of Glaaki in one go. cry

And with The King in Yellow as herald, Glaakis attack where no fun at all.

Utter disaster but great fun
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