John Welch
United States
California
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Stephen - Cruel Necessity is a game on the English Civil War and is part of a three pack from GMT that is now on the P500.
James - I am working on a design on the Mexican Revolution that will be similar to Sword of Rome in terms of game play but could also be played solitaire. This is a rough prototype map I've created as part of my design process.
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David Zammiello
United States
Libertyville
Illinois
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Global-level CDG on the Seven Year's War. I'm thinking of a Here I Stand-type treatment of a game covering the same scope as Soldier Kings.
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Rich Payne
United Kingdom
Barnsley
South Yorkshire
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usrlocal wrote: I'd like to see a big-ass all-the-trimmings hardcore scifi wargame about the Idiran-Culture War, based on the novels of Iain M. Banks: "Total casualties amounted to 851.4±25.5 (0.3%) billion sentient creatures, including medjel (slaves of the Idirans), sentient machines and non-combatants, and wiped out various smaller species, including the Changers. The war resulted in the destruction of 91,215,660 (±200) starships above interplanetary, 14,334 orbitals, 53 planets and major moons, 1 ring and 3 spheres, as well as the significant mass-loss or sequence-position alteration of 6 stars. Despite the relatively small scale, in comparison with the rumoured conflicts of the past as referred to by the sublimed species of the galaxy, the Idiran-Culture war is considered one of the more significant events in the galactic history of the Culture setting." This would not be a tactical wargame.
That is possibly the most brilliant concept for a wargame I have ever heard. How much to get it printed? 
I'd like to see a brigade-scale game on the Franco-Prussian War: Gravelotte, Sedan, Mars-La-Tour etc. And I would be quite partial to some alternative history on either a French invasion of England in the 1860s (the British were so sure it would happen, they built coastal defences to stop it, and something on ironclad combat in that era; non-historical, maybe France versus Britain. Now if AP would just release their ironclad system...
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Michele Cafagna
Italy
Trieste
Italy
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Manimal wrote: - Dolomitenkrieg in the alps between Austria-Hungary and Italy.
There is a very good italian game on that topic: Strafexpedition 1916
They are currently playing it at my club and feedbacks are good.
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Michele Cafagna
Italy
Trieste
Italy
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xlhrider wrote:
How about Schutztruppe, if you can put your hands on it. Played only once. Very funny.
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Adam Siler
United States
McKinney
Texas
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xlhrider wrote: I don't hate Cleveland. I just don't think it's worth fighting over. If it makes you feel any better I wouldn't fight for Washington DC either!  
Even if the invader promised liberation from the toll-booths?
Speaking of DC, I would like to see a game involving a second civil war during the 20's over a communist or labor union revolution that goes out of control. MacArthur as the top general of the White army, Smedley Butler as a kind of Stonewall Jackson of the Red army. Also it's a great chance to make use of all of those railways across the west.
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Peter Martin
United States
Oceanside
California
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cafagna wrote: xlhrider wrote: How about Schutztruppe, if you can put your hands on it. Played only once. Very funny.
Schutztruppe was actually quite ahead of its time when it came out. I think it is still the definitive treatment on the campaign so far. It is extremely hard to find and the game mechanics and graphics are rather outdated, but it is quite like Battleline's Shenandoah in that both games have aged better than 95% of their contemporaries.
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Kurt Weihs
United States
Spanaway
Washington
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3 Player game featuring the Indian Wars of the Pacific Northwest.
One player plays the American Army, 1 the Native Americans, and 1 represents the settlers.
I think it would make a great game with assymetrical victory conditions. The American Army is tasked with pacification, the Native Americans with maintaining their frontiers either through peace or militarily, and the settlers with exploiting areas for their natural resources.
Most games featuring Native Americans tend to be one sided affairs when this was really not the case. The Indian Wars were a long protracted affair where there were several victories for the Native Americans and not all of those victories were military in nature. The American Army was caught between a rock and a hard place. They spent a considerable amount of time and energy trying to follow treaties that they had established. Unfortunately, the settlers had a tendancy to infringe whenever possible which drove up the tension levels.
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Thomas DeFranco
United States
Illinois
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Here is my list that I could think of in a few seconds:
16th Century: Siege of Malta
18th Century: Poltava, Bunker Hill, Cowpens, Guilford Courthouse, Saratoga (both of them), Quebec (1775), Mollwitz, Parchwitz, Trenton and Princeton
19th Century: Solferino, Pea Ridge, Island #10, the Sioux Uprising in MN, Sepoy Mutiny, Sevastopol, Alma, individual battles of the Vicksburg Campaign, Five Forks and Sayler's Creek, Monocacy, Cedar Creek, San Juan Hill, Ulundi, Eylau, Friedland battles of the first Boer War, Konnigratz, Mars La Tour and Gravelotte/St. Privant, Omdurman
20th Century: Belleau Wood, Argonne Forest, Lost battalion, August 1918 (Germany's Black Day), Peleliu, Okinawa, Luzon (in OCS), Imjin River (1951), El Alamein, El Guettar, Pork Chop Hill, Hamburger Hill, 73 Easting (solitaire, obviously), Kwajelein, Eniwetok, Biak, Huertgen Forest
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Steve Bullock
United States
Palm Coast
Florida
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The Chinese Boxer Revolution...
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John Welch
United States
California
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Keep Up The Fire! could work for that
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As I said a couple of weeks ago: an operational treatment of the Iran-Iraq war. It has elements that no other conflict really has had. Massive human fodder and lots of chemical weapons. There are interesting supply and morale issues, attacks on well defended positions etc. I'd even consider getting into OCS for something like this.
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Jeremy Fridy
United States
Kent
Ohio
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Jude wrote: Stonewall riots (Christopher Street riots) -- if it were done accurately and represented that women started it by standing up to and fighting the police, and not the revisionist story where men take the credit (kind of like what happened to the "history" of the solidarity movement in Poland, where it was started by women by claimed by men, who then excluded the women)
Homestead Strike against Frick's hired Pinkerton private troops.
There was a coal miners vs. owners war in West Virginia when my grandfather was 11 where the US Army gave air recon while private aircraft dropped bombs on striking miners. The battle dragged on for about a week and involved around 45000 combatants in some form, with a private army using air power and machine gun positions vs. local strikers using guerrilla tactics and numbers.
In the end it was the definition of a Pyrrhic victory, the strikers were crushed, but the public reaction to the required brutality led to laws protecting unions in later years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
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Thomas Heaney
United States
Quincy
California
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Freitag wrote: Quote: Homestead Strike against Frick's hired Pinkerton private troops. There was a coal miners vs. owners war in West Virginia when my grandfather was 11 where the US Army gave air recon while private aircraft dropped bombs on striking miners.
Rocky Mountain labor wars from the Coeur d'Alene strike to Ludlow. Could use similar system to Free At Last but with more bombings and assassinations. Call it Fire in the Hole: The Western Mining Labor Wars, 1892-1914. (If somebody ends up designing such a game, please be so kind as to credit me for the title. Thanks.)
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Elijah Lau
Singapore
Singapore
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Probably the last peer-to-peer, force-on-force war in history that's been extensively written about - the Falklands War. Still waiting for Lee Brimmicombe-Wood to finish Unpublished Prototype.
Just to add that for those looking at obscure campaigns, check out Legion Wargames. They might have done or plan to do a campaign that you're looking for.
http://www.legionwargames.com/
This is the Legion Wargames game I am most eagerly waiting for.
Maori Wars: The New Zealand Land Wars, 1845-1872
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Rainer Kraft
Germany
Burghausen
Bavaria
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cafagna wrote: Manimal wrote: - Dolomitenkrieg in the alps between Austria-Hungary and Italy. There is a very good italian game on that topic: Strafexpedition 1916They are currently playing it at my club and feedbacks are good.
Excellent recommendation, thank you!
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Zé Mário
Portugal
Senhora da Hora
Matosinhos
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wolvendancer wrote: I'm really quite fascinated by this part of history, but I fear the game above would do an even worse job of capturing the history of what actually happened than the average wargame. In very generalized terms, what happened was:
1. "Moors" invade, set up shop.
2. A quick equilibrium is established. The relative tolerance of the "Moors" and the emergent "Christian"/"Moor" trade network makes the majority of the populace perfectly happy with a divided "Spain". Boundaries start to erode (for instance, an entire class of minor Christian nobility convert to Islam to avoid taxes and become eligible for the good jobs, though they consider themselves Saxon and make a great fuss about being descended from Saxon nobility).
3. Crusaders, both Muslim and Christian, occasionally enter and start a fuss. They are then killed, often by groups of Christians and Muslims (and Jews - one of the great "Moorish" generals was a Jew) who don't like the fact that wars make for bad trade.
4. The Caliphates start to decline due to corrupt oligarchies.
5. Christian "Spain" sweeps in, tortures and kills a whole lotta people, and burns a whole lotta irreplaceable books, setting back the accumulated knowledge of the human race by a good bit.
I'd love to play a game where the players played local burghers who attempted to preserve a very profitable peace against hordes of bellicose foreigners, but it would take a pretty creative game design to do it justice. "MUSLIM PLAYER, CHRISTIAN PLAYER, FIGHT!" wouldn't cut it.
"La Reconquista", by the way, was not centuries-long; it's just the term for the Spanish invade-y bits at the end.
(I apologize for all of the scare-quotes, but it's important to remember that nation-states didn't exist back then, and the "Moors" is an etic construction encompassing a lot of heterogenous groups)
-Breaks bottle on the counter-
Spain! The Iberian Christian kingdoms, if you will. Portugal was founded and was kicking ass in the reconquista before Spain existed!
Spain...
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Art Damage
United States
Boston
Massachusetts
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Asur wrote: -Breaks bottle on the counter- Spain! The Iberian Christian kingdoms, if you will. Portugal was founded and was kicking ass in the reconquista before Spain existed! Spain...
Apologies, sir. Please replace 'Christianized Iberia' for 'Spain' and 'Al-Andalus' for the Moorish bits.
(please don't cut me)
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4.1 Rules
United States
Rutland
Vermont
Drop the dice and step away from the table!
Move along, nothing to see here!
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How about the East Front 1941-1945?
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Charles Phillips
United States
Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania
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volnon wrote:
The Chinese Boxer Revolution...
I had mentioned this a year ago, and someone from...I think it was Victory Point Games...said they were working on a game on this subject.
I would add to this request a much more interesting proposed topic for a game: I'd like to see a game on the Taiping Rebellion (the "heavenly kingdom") of southern China during the same period. This is one of the largest Civil Wars ever and little known to the West. But more than that, it is just a damn fascinating subject.
Edit: I found another thread from a year ago (Halbe & Beelitz, 1945) in which I had asked if there were any games on the battles of Halbe & Breelitz, 1945. This was General Wenck's attempt to rescue the German 9th Army and then retreat to the Elbe to surrender to the Americans in late April 1945. This is another very interesting situation that could be done in an operational level, time limited manner similar to Panzergruppe Guderian.
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Charles Phillips
United States
Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania
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dirslashw wrote: ClineCon wrote: volnon wrote:
The Chinese Boxer Revolution...
I had mentioned this a year ago, and someone from...I think it was Victory Point Games...said they were working on a game on this subject. I would add to this request a much more interesting proposed topic for a game: I'd like to see a game on the Taiping Rebellion (the "heavenly kingdom") of southern China during the same period. This is one of the largest Civil Wars ever and little known to the West. But more than that, it is just a damn fascinating subject. ?
Yes, I had heard of Manchu before. But it's an older game, a magazine game, and I was hoping that someone might create an entirely new, updated game. There are so many more design tricks and techniques now than in 1988; the subject could use a fresh look.
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Adam Siler
United States
McKinney
Texas
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TommyD wrote: Here is my list that I could think of in a few seconds:
16th Century: Siege of Malta
18th Century: Poltava, Bunker Hill, Cowpens, Guilford Courthouse, Saratoga (both of them), Quebec (1775), Mollwitz, Parchwitz, Trenton and Princeton
19th Century: Solferino, Pea Ridge, Island #10, the Sioux Uprising in MN, Sepoy Mutiny, Sevastopol, Alma, individual battles of the Vicksburg Campaign, Five Forks and Sayler's Creek, Monocacy, Cedar Creek, San Juan Hill, Ulundi, Eylau, Friedland battles of the first Boer War, Konnigratz, Mars La Tour and Gravelotte/St. Privant, Omdurman
20th Century: Belleau Wood, Argonne Forest, Lost battalion, August 1918 (Germany's Black Day), Peleliu, Okinawa, Luzon (in OCS), Imjin River (1951), El Alamein, El Guettar, Pork Chop Hill, Hamburger Hill, 73 Easting (solitaire, obviously), Kwajelein, Eniwetok, Biak, Huertgen Forest
As much as I'd like to see Malta, Bunker Hill, Sevastopol, and other Alamo-like battles done in a wargame format, I think that there would have to be a morale-centric game that would have to bring in a whole new type of rules.
Konnigratz and battles from the Franco-Prussian War using a good Civil War system's rules and production quality would be great. As much as the Civil War has an appeal in America, I think that the number of games actually makes me want to game its contemporary wars. I wonder, how can you be interested in the Civil War but not at least be interested in how European wars contrasted with it.
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Wendell
United States
Arlington
Virginia
All the little chicks with crimson lips, go...
Hey, get your stinking cursor off my face! I got nukes, you know.
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billyboy wrote: How about the East Front 1941-1945?
Dream on. There has to be sufficient interest in a topic for somebody to put in the time and effort.
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John Welch
United States
California
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Hello Charles - the game is now out and available it's called Keep Up The Fire!
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