El-ad David Amir
United States
New York
New York
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I have spoken with FFG and they gave their agreement for an on line version of Civilization, as long as no money is involved (no donations, no ads, no fees). Unfortunately, the intellectual property belongs to 2K Games and I couldn't get anyone there to talk to me- hence, such an implementation cannot be called "Civilization".
With that said:
1) Would people be interested in an on line implementation of Civilization? I was thinking of two versions, a live version (similar to BSW or the plethora of Dominion implementations) and a turn based version (like the TtA implementation, or the old RftG server).
2) Would people still play if the game is re-skinned? I cannot call it "Civilization" and I cannot use any of the FFG art. I would either completely re-skin it with a new theme (a space theme, maybe?) or rename it (to something like, I don't know, "Call to Power" ;-) Or "Generations" or whatever).
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Marcin Krupiński
Poland
Warsaw
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I would probably play it... but let's think about it..
Board Game that was made into a computer game, that was later been made into board game (even two if you count Through the Ages) and that was made ino computer/online/ios game 
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Jason Mackay
Canada
Unspecified
Alberta
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Don't see why you couldn't call it simply "Civilization" as the title of the board game is actually "Sid Meier's Civilization". Or just pluralize it.
Regardless, the name's unimportant. People would play it if it was good. Looks like a very difficult game to program. But you'd know better.
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Jonathan Kinney
Canada
Surrey
British Columbia
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So an online version of a boad game that reimplements a video game! Wonder if someone will make a board game based on your online version?
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El-ad David Amir
United States
New York
New York
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jonocop wrote: So an online version of a boad game that reimplements a video game! Wonder if someone will make a board game based on your online version?
As stated above, the video game was based on a board game ;-)
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Jonathan Kinney
Canada
Surrey
British Columbia
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IirionClaus wrote: jonocop wrote: So an online version of a boad game that reimplements a video game! Wonder if someone will make a board game based on your online version? As stated above, the video game was based on a board game ;-)
Right! And interestingly there was another video ame based more directly on that Board game thus making things more interesting. 
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Daniel Hammond
United States
League City
Texas
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Call it "Civ Online".
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Kenneth Wynne
United States
Allison Park
Pennsylvania
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would be sweet to have an ipad version 8)
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Ricardo Donoso
Brazil
RIBEIRÃO PRETO
Sao Paulo
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I would LOVE to play!
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Timothy Pride
Indonesia
Jakarta
DKI Jakarta
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This would be great. I really hope you implement it like BGO (web-based, not standalone program). It would really help since interest in PBF here is great.
As for the name, it won't really matter since TTA got online game named Boardgaming-Online that is so generic, and it's still known.
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Hobie
United States
Philadelphia
Pennsylvania
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I have the computer version (a couple actually)...but an online version based solely on the board game would be great! Something like brass.orderofthehammer would be ideal
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Matthew Cary
United States
Minneapolis
Minnesota
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[q="IirionClaus"]I have spoken with FFG and they gave their agreement for an on line version of Civilization, as long as no money is involved (no donations, no ads, no fees)./q]
Given their expansion into iOS Apps, this seems like it might compete with future products directly. I'm surprised they were OK with it.
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El-ad David Amir
United States
New York
New York
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Jhamin wrote: Given their expansion into iOS Apps, this seems like it might compete with future products directly. I'm surprised they were OK with it.
Which iOS apps did they release?
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Ricardo Donoso
Brazil
RIBEIRÃO PRETO
Sao Paulo
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Arkham Horror tool kit is one, but it is a tool, not hte game itself.
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Jeff Long
Canada
Saskatoon
Saskatchewan
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I'd be very interested no matter which way you go with it.
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Ricardo Donoso
Brazil
RIBEIRÃO PRETO
Sao Paulo
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rdonoso wrote: Arkham Horror tool kit is one, but it is a tool, not hte game itself.
And elder sign omens.
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Evan S
United States
Minneapolis
Minnesota
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jonocop wrote: IirionClaus wrote: jonocop wrote: So an online version of a boad game that reimplements a video game! Wonder if someone will make a board game based on your online version? As stated above, the video game was based on a board game ;-) Right! And interestingly there was another video ame based more directly on that Board game thus making things more interesting.
That leaves out things like CivNet, Call to Power, etc. on the computer game side and other boardgames that don't seem quite so directly influence by either Avalon Hill's Civilization or the Sid Meier series.
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Daniel Hammond
United States
League City
Texas
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I know this is a silly idea but we could call it Civilisation.
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Ian Kelly
United States
Longmont
Colorado
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comport9 wrote: Don't see why you couldn't call it simply "Civilization" as the title of the board game is actually "Sid Meier's Civilization". Or just pluralize it.
Because just the word "Civilization" is a trademark of Take-Two Interactive.
dlhammond wrote: I know this is a silly idea but we could call it Civilisation.
IANAL, but I think that's probably still too close to the trademark.
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El-ad David Amir
United States
New York
New York
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I was actually toying with the idea of calling it "Forex" ;-)
(... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4X ...)
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Simon Lindén
Sweden
Lund
Unspecified
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I'll probably play it. Also let us know if you need help creating GUI components and other graphics, which I could probably help with.
What kind of environment will you be developing in? Would you do all the programming yourself or will you be looking for help?
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El-ad David Amir
United States
New York
New York
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Alandor wrote: I'll probably play it. Also let us know if you need help creating GUI components and other graphics, which I could probably help with.
What kind of environment will you be developing in? Would you do all the programming yourself or will you be looking for help?
I was thinking of doing it in Python and using Google Apps as the server platform. I think I'll start with a basic infrastructure and then I might put it on line and let people tinker with it further. I would definitely need help with GUI and other graphics (since I'm not allowed to use any of the game's).
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Mark B
United States
Connecticut
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I would like to assist with the project if it were done in JavaScript/jQuery & PHP. I've tried extensive stat sheets that'll help players, but it pulls you away from the game too much and just created a simple Capital/City stats/turn tracker.
I have one request, I need all the images used in the FBG that I've seen being played here (and that I would like to participate in).
The design part is always simple, but the logic rules are a difficult animal all together. Normally a moderator or Game Master controls the game preventing the players from cheating. The Culture cards tend to extend the coding(where I always get stuck), and testing process since they are the interrupts that change how the game can look and play.
If anyone else has ideas that can help get this project rolling that would be cool.
Another future goal is to turn a simple stats tracker into a free Android app (sorry iPhone uses I prefer Java over Objective-C coding).
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Peristarkawan wrote: comport9 wrote: Don't see why you couldn't call it simply "Civilization" as the title of the board game is actually "Sid Meier's Civilization". Or just pluralize it. Because just the word "Civilization" is a trademark of Take-Two Interactive. dlhammond wrote: I know this is a silly idea but we could call it Civilisation. IANAL, but I think that's probably still too close to the trademark.
How about: Civilized Nations?   (If you read it quickly it almost sounds like the other names...)
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El-ad David Amir
United States
New York
New York
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Maarek Stele wrote: I would like to assist with the project if it were done in JavaScript/jQuery & PHP. I've tried extensive stat sheets that'll help players, but it pulls you away from the game too much and just created a simple Capital/City stats/turn tracker.
Right now my plan is to write this in Python; I believe that will be the easiest language to work in. The front end might require JavaScript and PHP, though.
Quote: I have one request, I need all the images used in the FBG that I've seen being played here (and that I would like to participate in).
I do not have FFG's permission to use any of the game's art in the on line version. Everything will have to be taken from elsewhere.
Quote: The design part is always simple, but the logic rules are a difficult animal all together. Normally a moderator or Game Master controls the game preventing the players from cheating. The Culture cards tend to extend the coding(where I always get stuck), and testing process since they are the interrupts that change how the game can look and play.
Our group has some ideas on implementing interrupts. We're still thinking about that, since it will influence the development of the engine.
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