Paul Paella
United States
Depew
New York
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I just posted some pics of a quick "paint" job on my 2e set. I used the "dipping" technique to give it an artsy look, and while it came out decent, I had a LOT of problems trying a new product.
I've used Minwax Polyshades: Tudor stain for many years, with great success. I truly love this product for dipping and prefer it over even the most expensive washes (GW, etc.)
This product has always been hard to find and a few months ago I ran out. I saw they had some products at Home Depot and thought I'd give it one (Minwax Polyshades: classic Black Stain) a try. It didn't go as planned.
This newer stain went on almost pitch black instead of dripping off the mini quickly, leaving a nice shadow look behind. I had to wipe all of the stain off of my first mini. I then used paint thinner to thin out the stain. I had to keep adding thinner to get the stain thin enough to run off the mini, so much that afterward the mixture was more thinner than stain. This resulted in a mini that, while looked pretty good, took weeks to dry. Even after it "dried" applying a clear coat was difficult; the thinner was just too prevalent. Bottom line, I won't be using this new "Minwax Polyshades: classic Black Stain" product anymore.
7 Pics:
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Malcolm
United Kingdom
Preston
Lancashire
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Hi,
THanks - they look good.
What did you do to get them to that stage?
Are they undercoated, painted and then dipped?
Or have you dipped the bare plastic?
I'm curious as i would like to do something similar with my set but i don't think i really have the will power to spray & paint all my models...
Cheers,
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Craig Rose
United States
Walnut Creek
California
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Dipping the minis really brings out the detail. I've only colored the bases of the minis, but I may have to dip them as well. Thanks for the pics (and the warning about the black stain).
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Paul Paella
United States
Depew
New York
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Thanks for the replies. These are the steps I took:
(1)
Washed the minis in dish soap and warm water. I let them dry for 1 day.
(2)
I applied "Minwax Polyshades: Classic Black" stain to one mini to test the new stain. It stuck to the mini instead of sliding off to leave a nice shadow effect, like their "Tudor Satin" product does. The mini was also nearly pitch black so I wiped off all of the stain.
(3)
I diluted the stain with paint thinner. After several tests I settled on a ratio of about 3 parts thinner to 2 parts stain.
(4)
I used a medium-sized brush to apply the stain liberally on each mini.
(5)
Due to the large amount of thinner in the mixture I had wait over a week for the minis to "dry". Even after a week they were still very tacky (due to the thinner).
(6)
I painted the bases with Games Workshop paints. Due to the the large quantity of thinner in the dip mixture I had to apply 2-4 coats to each base. This took most of my time.
(7)
Applied a clear coat of Vallejo gloss varnish.
I do NOT recommend this procedure to anyone! My mistakes:
- I should have applied a primer base coat. I wanted this job to be quick and I cut corners.
- The "Minwax Polyshades: Classic Black" stain is terrible as a wash. I've used "Minwax 61360 Polyshades Satin Tudor" the past 2 years with great success and had none of the problems above.
Here are some examples of minis I painted, waited for them to dry, then applied a generous amount of "Minwax 61360 Polyshades Satin Tudor" as a wash. All of these were painted very quickly, the only way I prefer to paint.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/Thraug/BulkSkeletons/...
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/Thraug/DSCN3882.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/Thraug/DSCN3887.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/Thraug/DSCN3639.jpg
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Shane Larsen
United States
Salt Lake City
Utah
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Sorry, I'm a bit confused. In the end, you didn't end up "dipping" these. You brushed them. Right?
Sorry to ask for the clarification. I'm wanting something quick and easy for my paint job and dipping sounds just that.
Thanks! They're beautiful, btw.
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David Bailey
United States
Warner Robins
Georgia
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thedacker wrote: Sorry, I'm a bit confused. In the end, you didn't end up "dipping" these. You brushed them. Right?
Sorry to ask for the clarification. I'm wanting something quick and easy for my paint job and dipping sounds just that.
Thanks! They're beautiful, btw.
Despite the fact that the process is called "dipping", most people apply the product with a brush. It's actually still pretty fast that way, with a lot more control over how much dip you apply and where.
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Paul Paella
United States
Depew
New York
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David Bailey is correct, I used a brush to generously apply the stain (Minwax Polyshades Classic Black for the WotR minis). I've tried physically dipping minis into a container of stain but it was a mess and wasted a LOT of stain, and had to be done outside.
The first time I used this dipping technique I was shocked at how much stain covered the mini, making it look like it was swimming in stain. This is okay for the original Minwax Ployshades Tudor black product since a very large portion of it drips to the base of the mini or settles in the cracks, where you want it. Even with a brush I apply a lot of stain, pretty much wily nilly, covering the whole minis for most jobs. I then use the brush to sweep up the drizzle at the bottom of base.
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Ali S
United States
California
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Have you come across an alternative yet to the "Minwax Polyshades Classic Black" that you've found works better and doesn't result in the thinner issues you'd encountered?
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Ali S
United States
California
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you mentioned "I should have applied a primer base coat" ... but if you did that, wouldn't all the minis end up the same color after wash? Or would you use a different color primer for each SET?
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Posted Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:27 pm
