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I just read this a few days ago in the Gears of War: The Board Game rulebook.
While the meaning of the word isn´t hard to figure out even as a non-native speaker, I found it rather odd and I´m pretty sure to never have read it before.
Why do people come up with this kind of wording in rulebooks, where everything should be as understandable as possible, do they think it makes them look smart?
What are they trying to compensate?
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I feel like I use this word fairly often. I can't think of another word that means the same thing.
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What word would you suggest using, to describe 2 points of equal distance from a third?
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It's a perfectly cromulent word.

Equidistant, from the latin roots Distans - "Standing Apart" and Equis - "Horse"

Therefore, Equidistant means, Not near the horse, or in boardgames, possibly Not near the Knight.

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Rulebooks aren´t about finding a single word to describe something, you can use more words like "same distance" or " of equal distance" or whatever, without people thinking you never had an edjucation.
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The Jakster wrote:
Rulebooks aren´t about finding a single word to describe something, you can use more words like "same distance" or " of equal distance" or whatever, without people thinking you never had an edjucation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak
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TiwazTyrsfist wrote:
It's a perfectly cromulent word.

Equidistant, from the latin roots Distans - "Standing Apart" and Equis - "Horse"

Therefore, Equidistant means, Not near the horse, or in boardgames, possibly Not near the Knight.



Thanks for the embiggening of my English!
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The Jakster wrote:
Why do people come up with this kind of wording in rulebooks, where everything should be as understandable as possible, do they think it makes them look smart?

By "understandable", do you mean "dumbed down"? Seriously, anyone who attended high school should know that word. And if a person doesn't know the meaning of a particular word, that's what dictionaries are used for.
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GSReis wrote:
The Jakster wrote:
Why do people come up with this kind of wording in rulebooks, where everything should be as understandable as possible, do they think it makes them look smart?

By "understandable", do you mean "dumbed down"? Seriously, anyone who attended high school should know that word. And if a person doesn't know the meaning of a particular word, that's what dictionaries are used for.


Using normal everyday language certainly isn´t "dumbed down" and to label it so has a hint of arrogance in my book.
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GSReis wrote:
The Jakster wrote:
Why do people come up with this kind of wording in rulebooks, where everything should be as understandable as possible, do they think it makes them look smart?

By "understandable", do you mean "dumbed down"? Seriously, anyone who attended high school should know that word. And if a person doesn't know the meaning of a particular word, that's what dictionaries are used for.


I rarely attended high school and even I know that word!
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The Jakster wrote:
GSReis wrote:
The Jakster wrote:
Why do people come up with this kind of wording in rulebooks, where everything should be as understandable as possible, do they think it makes them look smart?

By "understandable", do you mean "dumbed down"? Seriously, anyone who attended high school should know that word. And if a person doesn't know the meaning of a particular word, that's what dictionaries are used for.


Using normal everyday language certainly isn´t "dumbed down" and to label it so has a hint of arrogance in my book.


Equidistant is a pretty simple word for native speakers, to be honest. Much more so than orthogonal.
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The Jakster wrote:
I just read this a few days ago in the Gears of War: The Board Game rulebook.
While the meaning of the word isn´t hard to figure out even as a non-native speaker, I found it rather odd and I´m pretty sure to never have read it before.
Why do people come up with this kind of wording in rulebooks, where everything should be as understandable as possible, do they think it makes them look smart?
What are they trying to compensate?


Its unambiguous. It is one word. Exactly what I hope for from a rulebook. And it isn't uncommon, especially if you have any interest in mathematics or engineering.

Now, the word is fine - but how's the context?
 
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I agree that equidistant is a pretty normal word that people should know. Plus, even if you've never heard of it it's not hard to guess the meaning as it practically sounds like "equal distance".

Besides, a person who plays hobby boardgames is probably either decently educated or enjoys learning new things anyway.
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Hello....geeks writing rulebooks.....

'Nuff said.
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If I read a rulebook in German, I won't know any of the words. So, be happy you've still got me beat?
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Elltrain wrote:
What word would you suggest using, to describe 2 points of equal distance from a third?


I think it would take two words.
equidistant (from) := same distance (from)

If the points were co-linear: halfway between might suffice.
 
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TiwazTyrsfist wrote:
It's a perfectly cromulent word.

Equidistant, from the latin roots Distans - "Standing Apart" and Equis - "Horse"

Therefore, Equidistant means, Not near the horse, or in boardgames, possibly Not near the Knight.

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had to read this twice, and i´m still not sure if this was a joke...

anyways, Equidistant has imo nothing to do with horses. The Equi-part comes from the word "aequus" (lat.) and means equal or even, distant was translated correctly, so it means it has the same distance.
 
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CJoe wrote:
TiwazTyrsfist wrote:
It's a perfectly cromulent word.

Equidistant, from the latin roots Distans - "Standing Apart" and Equis - "Horse"

Therefore, Equidistant means, Not near the horse, or in boardgames, possibly Not near the Knight.



had to read this twice, and i´m still not sure if this was a joke...

anyways, Equidistant has imo nothing to do with horses. The Equi-part comes from the word "aequus" (lat.) and means equal or even, distant was translated correctly, so it means it has the same distance.


Pretty sure you can feel free to read it a third time
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scifiantihero wrote:
CJoe wrote:
TiwazTyrsfist wrote:
It's a perfectly cromulent word.

Equidistant, from the latin roots Distans - "Standing Apart" and Equis - "Horse"

Therefore, Equidistant means, Not near the horse, or in boardgames, possibly Not near the Knight.

:P


had to read this twice, and i´m still not sure if this was a joke...

anyways, Equidistant has imo nothing to do with horses. The Equi-part comes from the word "aequus" (lat.) and means equal or even, distant was translated correctly, so it means it has the same distance.


Pretty sure you can feel free to read it a third time ;)

ok, ok, but it was a short night, and i didn´t want to offend anyone, but obviousely a little too cautious
 
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GSReis wrote:
The Jakster wrote:
Why do people come up with this kind of wording in rulebooks, where everything should be as understandable as possible, do they think it makes them look smart?

By "understandable", do you mean "dumbed down"? Seriously, anyone who attended high school should know that word. And if a person doesn't know the meaning of a particular word, that's what dictionaries are used for.


In health care (at least in the system I work in), forms that go to the public have to be written at a grade 6 reading level. Board game companies have no such responsibility, but it seems pretty silly (and arrogant), to me, to not try to make your game as accessible as possible by using language that's easily understood.
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I just asked my 9 and 12 year old sons what equidistant means and they both answered correctly.
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As others have mentioned, I feel like this is a fairly common and well understood word that is perfectly fine for use in an instruction manual. "Orthogonally" probably has lower comprehension from the general public.
 
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I know this one! I know this one!

Its someone riding a horse a really long way...right?!?shake

I actually had a Cub Scout give me that definition years ago. He knew equine (his sister rode horses) and he knew distant, so...

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